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| Pricey....moaning about Wire being roughed up.
We've touched on it on another thread.....it deserves it's own topic.
Catalans roughed us up and Pricey didn't like it. He should put up and shut up. We ought to mix it.
In the GF the team that wins might bully us...no use complaining after the fact...you can't change tomorrows news.
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| Big enforcer type prop required
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| Just out of curiosity, who is the nominated enforcer in the St Helens pack, a pack that has led it's team to the top of the table?
LMS? erm no, the bloke had a pony tail not that long ago
Roby? Top player, big on skill short on stature
Amor? Leo Sayer haircut
Their pack is no tougher than ours but they don't get outmuscled too often. Our issue is that in BMM and Akuola we have two impact players who have yet to make much impact.
We also still look weak when we rotate our props. So given the choice of two Paul Woods or an enforcer, I'd take the former.
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| In the same way we persuaded Henderson to give up a lower division head coaching job to join our staff could we bring Paul Rowley in as specialist "shethouse tactics" coach.
We could have had Catalans too busy coping with all of our little tricks to try their throwing the ball at a player trying to escape the ruck scams and the like.
It would keep the duck happy and also stop lefty's complaints that we're "too nice".
Or how about try and get hold of that Aussie guy who captained Bradford back in the early days of SL, was it Graeme Bradley? I seem to remember him being good at rustling a few jimmies.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "In the same way we persuaded Henderson to give up a lower division head coaching job to join our staff could we bring Paul Rowley in as specialist "shethouse tactics" coach.
We could have had Catalans too busy coping with all of our little tricks to try their throwing the ball at a player trying to escape the ruck scams and the like.
It would keep the duck happy and also stop lefty's complaints that we're "too nice".
Or how about try and get hold of that Aussie guy who captained Bradford back in the early days of SL, was it Graeme Bradley? I seem to remember him being good at rustling a few jimmies.'"
Lol. That's the Sally of old.
Top post. Keep away from the TS fisting will you.
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| To some teams, playing the ref & bending the rules a more likely to get a win than trying to play good open rugby.
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| Ive not heard the interview with Pricey, i hope he is suggesting that the ref let Cat's get away with foul play and not that they were just to rough, if it is the latter i will be astonished that anyone connected with our game would complain that a team were just to rough . However, nothing would surprise me the way our game is going, i'm sure i saw the ref telling a Cat's player to get to his feet after throwing himself to the ground looking for a penalty ( i may be wrong was at the west end).
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| Quote: ninearches "To some teams, playing the ref & bending the rules a more likely to get a win than trying to play good open rugby.'"
This is it...
The first 10mins of a game id have my team testing the ref to see what we can get away with.
Lying on longer and slow retreat of 10, plus wrestling tactics and getting your arms all over the ball and in his face.
If you get no margin of him, behave....but if you get away with it, you keep it up and frustrate the player into retaliation and win a penalty.
No complaints from any team that does spoiling tactics and gets away with it.
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| Quote: POSTL "Ive not heard the interview with Pricey, i hope he is suggesting that the ref let Cat's get away with foul play and not that they were just to rough, if it is the latter i will be astonished that anyone connected with our game would complain that a team were just to rough
There is an article & interview video on the Warrington Guardian webpage. Price seems confused by some of Mr Thaler's decisions ,as were most of the people on the terraces. The touch judges were completely useless too.
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| My issue is Pricey complaints isn't going to change the weather.
Spoiling tactics aren't great... but they can almost win you a game like on Thursday.
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| I like to see it.
There’s too much mard arße stuff creeping into this sport so when you see that teams can still fairly rough another team up, I’m all for it.
We weren’t “cannonball”ed and heads weren’t targeted too hard, we were just roughed up by tougher lads (on the night).
The more this sport gets back to that the better instead of all this diving and feigning injury and faux-hard man posturing, the better... just don’t take it too far!
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| Quote: Psychedelic Casual "I like to see it.
There’s too much mard arße stuff creeping into this sport so when you see that teams can still fairly rough another team up, I’m all for it.
We weren’t “cannonball”ed and heads weren’t targeted too hard, we were just roughed up by tougher lads (on the night).
The more this sport gets back to that the better instead of all this diving and feigning injury and faux-hard man posturing, the better... just don’t take it too far!'"
I agree. However, the recent trend seems to involve players acting the hard man one minute and acting the goat the next
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| I've long thought one problem with 'Biff' (or lack thereof from Wire) is that we don't seem to get away with it like other teams do. Watch a Wire/Wigan game and the majority of Wigan tackles make you cringe with third-manning, arms and legs being twisted, turning the ball-carrying player over/round, nearly every tackle could be penalised in some way shape or form by an overly diligent ref. Yet, Wire don't seem to be able to do the same for fear of being penalised.
We're not a dirty team, and can't mix it in the same way as those who are good at getting away with it, IMO.
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| Too many minutes go by without biff in a Wire vs Pies game these days.
I remember the times when we couldn't win a game against them, but we always come home satisfied knowing we'd won the fight!
Anyways my point is about Price moaning about it. Opening his mouth will only allow our opponent to see that it's a weak spot. If a team has spoiling tactics and can get away with it...we must deal with it. Proper rough up in return but alas cheap Hill style penalties aren't that. (Although he's not been too bad of late), but don't spit the dummy out Pricey.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Pricey....moaning about Wire being roughed up.
We've touched on it on another thread.....it deserves it's own topic.
Catalans roughed us up and Pricey didn't like it. He should put up and shut up. We ought to mix it.
In the GF the team that wins might bully us...no use complaining after the fact...you can't change tomorrows news.'"
Have you got a link to the interview? I heard him complain about the penalty given against Roberts for the dummy half passing it into him. Haven't heard the interview with him complaining about getting 'roughed up'
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