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Ratchford
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I’ve left other 2nd row spot as I don’t know who to put there,I’m guessing G.king is going to get a spot but personally wouldn’t have him anywhere near.

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Quote: karetaker "Ratchford
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Charnley
Brown
Roberts
Hill
Clark
Cooper

Hughes
Westwood

Akauola
Crosby
Philbin
Patton

I’ve left other 2nd row spot as I don’t know who to put there,I’m guessing G.king is going to get a spot but personally wouldn’t have him anywhere near.'"


Westwood to 2nd row, Philbin to loose, g king to bench I imagine. Westwoods lateral defence will be targeted if he plays there, especially assuming Gildart & Farrell are on his side, but I don't see anyone else able to play there?

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I'd put a prop at 13 while Ratchford returns. Cooper

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In the past Price has moved Westwood to SR and played King at loose. That was when he was missing Crosby, so he may just decide to go with Cooper at the back with Akauola as starting prop. A case of making do whichever way you look at it. I would expect Patton to get the nod ahead of M Brown simply because he provides cover for Clark. Brown did an excellent job at full back last week, and could consider himself unlucky if he's dropped, but for Clark to do 80 minutes at dummy half in this heat is a big ask.

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Could throw a curve ball and keep Brown at fullback and let Ratchford play at loose,not sure I would as he as now made fullback is role.

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Quote: karetaker "Could throw a curve ball and keep Brown at fullback and let Ratchford play at loose,not sure I would as he as now made fullback is role.'"

You are TS and I claim my £5.

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I would see what Mitch Brown looks at left second row in training then if OK give it a go.

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Ratchford
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Hughes
G.King

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Crosby
Philbin
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He could put M.brown at centre and T.king 2nd row.That would allow us to rotate weestwood/clake at loose when needed ???

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Quote: Never a try "Ratchford
Lineham
Goodwin
King
Charnley
Brown
Roberts
Hill
Clark
Cooper
Westwood
Hughes
G.King

Akauola
Crosby
Philbin
Patton

He could put M.brown at centre and T.king 2nd row.That would allow us to rotate weestwood/clake at loose when needed ???'"


I know that simplistically it's one slot down the line, but, I'm not convinced that either M Brown or T King are big enough for second row duties particularly against Wigan

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Look about the same size as Livett or Farrell of Wigan ... might be wrong but I don't think size is an issue.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Look about the same size as Livett or Farrell of Wigan ... might be wrong but I don't think size is an issue.'"


Fair enough Smiffy but I did say that I wasn't convinced rather than over my dead body. I think that Livett is the biggest out of our three and agree that size isn't the be all and all. Farrell and Bateman play up IMO and I'm not sure Brown and King do/can

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Modern day second row/centre skills look so similar. The idea of Livett at ST was pooh pooh'd until he played there.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Modern day second row/centre skills look so similar.'"


Indeed, which is Westwood went there and served us well, Bateman playing there for England ahead of a 'natural' centre and we have the regular Atkins debate on here, but, all of those are different 'animals' to Brown and King currently IMO

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Fair enough Smiffy but I did say that I wasn't convinced rather than over my dead body. I think that Livett is the biggest out of our three and agree that size isn't the be all and all. Farrell and Bateman play up IMO and I'm not sure Brown and King do/can'"

I'm with you UR.
Toby in the pack.. him getting through a game in the pack will be like trying to get through a pack of Ritz Cheese Sandwich crackers without a break in one!

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