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As big a fan as I am of Tony Smith, I desperately want us to win the Grand Final.

Shaun Wane has won 2 in 4 years.

2017 will be Tony's 8th full year in charge. If we fail again at the big prize this year would it be time to part ways?

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Yes he has had the backing and support that any club manager would dream for and failed to deliver the SL trophy.

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If TS goes, who would you get Wires71?

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Quote: rubber duckie "If TS goes, who would you get?'"


This is the question I ask every time, but I've not once had a satisfactory / realistic answer.

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Quote: Fatbelly "This is the question I ask every time, but I've not once had a satisfactory / realistic answer.'"


I would scout around for world class coaches in the ilk of

Des Hasler
Craig Bellamy
Wayne Bennett

We have the cash to tempt them.

Failing that make an offer to Daryl Powell.

I'm not having it that there is no-one other than Smith so we dare not even consider life afterwards.

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No chance of a top class Aussie coach wanting to spend a significant amount of time in the UK. Daryl Powell is probably the one British coach that may be available in the future, and although I am very impressed by his results so far I'm not sure whether he would be tempted to move away from that side of the Pennines and would probably be hoping Leeds is the next big club job for him.

On one hand I fear that Smith may have taken us as far as he can, but on the other hand I fear that anyone else available would take us away from competing in finals to just being 'in the mix'. Under Smith we've made 7 major finals, won 3 of them and won the league twice. Whilst we all obviously (and desperately) want to win that elusive trophy, it's not exactly a bad haul is it? Which other coach would have brought that much success to this club?

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Quote: easyWire "No chance of a top class Aussie coach wanting to spend a significant amount of time in the UK. Daryl Powell is probably the one British coach that may be available in the future, and although I am very impressed by his results so far I'm not sure whether he would be tempted to move away from that side of the Pennines and would probably be hoping Leeds is the next big club job for him.

On one hand I fear that Smith may have taken us as far as he can, but on the other hand I fear that anyone else available would take us away from competing in finals to just being 'in the mix'. Under Smith we've made 7 major finals, won 3 of them and won the league twice. Whilst we all obviously (and desperately) want to win that elusive trophy, it's not exactly a bad haul is it? Which other coach would have brought that much success to this club?'"


You can't be certain on a top Aussie coach, especially if we offered a huge financial incentive.

All what you say on Smith is true, but the 3 wins were 2009-12. Time moves on. We have not "won the league" twice. If we had we would not be having this discussion.

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I would personally want a coach to play good rugby. Watching he NRL last year was frustrating at times with the 'regiment' and 'process' It's a battle of wills, who loses first, rather than out crafting a team to win a match, and it's pretty ordinary to watch.
2016 for Warrington was enough with the scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot, bomb approach in some games, I prefer the games where we took the reigns off and played.

Will it win a grand final, who knows, but I'd rather WIN it than bore the opposition to submission

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Quote: Barbed Wire "I would personally want a coach to play good rugby. Watching he NRL last year was frustrating at times with the 'regiment' and 'process' It's a battle of wills, who loses first, rather than out crafting a team to win a match, and it's pretty ordinary to watch.
2016 for Warrington was enough with the scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot, bomb approach in some games, I prefer the games where we took the reigns off and played.

Will it win a grand final, who knows, but I'd rather WIN it than bore the opposition to submission'"



Yes watching Warrington last year was dull. We were spoiled in 2009-12 as we played attractive flowing rugby and won things. Now we do neither. All our hopes pinned on an aging Kevin Brown too.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "I would personally want a coach to play good rugby. Watching he NRL last year was frustrating at times with the 'regiment' and 'process' It's a battle of wills, who loses first, rather than out crafting a team to win a match, and it's pretty ordinary to watch.
2016 for Warrington was enough with the scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot, bomb approach in some games, I prefer the games where we took the reigns off and played.

Will it win a grand final, who knows, but I'd rather WIN it than bore the opposition to submission'"


That's exactly the way that I see it. Primarily I want to see good entertaining rugby. If we win trophies as a result, well, that's the icing on the cake. I don't want to win the Wigan way!

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Quote: Barbed Wire "I would personally want a coach to play good rugby. Watching he NRL last year was frustrating at times with the 'regiment' and 'process' It's a battle of wills, who loses first, rather than out crafting a team to win a match, and it's pretty ordinary to watch.
2016 for Warrington was enough with the scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot, bomb approach in some games, I prefer the games where we took the reigns off and played.

Will it win a grand final, who knows, but I'd rather WIN it than bore the opposition to submission'"

You speaka mah language

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Silver, I hear what you are saying but for once I wouldn't mind closing a GF down when ahead just to win the cotton picking thing.
Entertaining runners up has its merit up to a point, was it 2012 or so when it was like watching Barcelona and almost every game was a joy to behold. But I would like to stay and listen to Warrington winnners speeches ringing around OT for once.

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I cannot believe fans would put seeing entertaining rugby over winning a grand final. I simply don't care if we win the final in the most boring game of rugby the world has ever witnessed. I want my team to win. if they do it in an entertaining way, then great. But this is sport and sport is about winning.

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Quote: Moe syslak "I cannot believe fans would put seeing entertaining rugby over winning a grand final. I simply don't care if we win the final in the most boring game of rugby the world has ever witnessed. I want my team to win. if they do it in an entertaining way, then great. But this is sport and sport is about winning.'"


A couple of years ago I might have agreed with you, but I watch rugby league because it's entertaining. If it's no longer that, why watch? I'm compelled to watch my Warrington, as I support them, both fanatically and financially (although fans cash input is less important these days) but for the investment, I would appreciate entertainment in return.

Some of the best games I've witnessed as a spectacle were at Knowsley Road when we would throw the kitchen sink at Saints and they would inevitably prevail, just because we didn't win doesn't mean that I wasn't completely enthralled in the entertainment.

I'm completely behind Tony Smith, and it will be a sad day when he does leave this club, but we have had some great value from him. Tough act to follow

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Winning in sport is everything, nothing else matters. Winners breed winners, the trouble with this country is that successive governments have pushed us into the "taking part counts more" and "being inclusive" and ffs don't upset anyone by a team winning. Junior teams not allowed to win by certain levels no "A or B" teams. It has now spread to adults hence the lets play entertaining and it doesn't matter if we lose, well bo11ocks to that.

This is sport not a past time, winning is everything!

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