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They've given up second half, very poor showing. Wonder what the 'Sad One' will have to say on the matter?!

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "They've given up second half, very poor showing. Wonder what the 'Sad One' will have to say on the matter?!'"


Should have played some of the reserves he was going on about on another thread

Shocking display, I'm gutted for Wilkin and LMS icon_biggrin.gif

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First half they were poor, but credit hull. They won the forward battle and Houghton killed them around the ruck. My mom.
Combined with sneyds kicking, saints just couldn't compete and had no energy left in the 2nd half.

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "They've given up second half, very poor showing. Wonder what the 'Sad One' will have to say on the matter?!'"


He will blame it on something but not the right thing

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LMS looked like the only Saints player that even tried.

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Good job most of the Saints fans forgot they were playing today so they didn't have to witness it.

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Quote: Wire Yed "Good job most of the Saints fans forgot they were playing today so they didn't have to witness it.'"


See what you done there lol.

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At least they had their *I was there* moment....Walsh made his annual run with the ball.

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Quote: thelinesman "He will blame it on something but not the right thing'"


Nice to be called out again for a response.

I'll blame it on us being pants if I may? We're just not very good anymore and we get worse pretty much every season. The whole club is toxic from top to bottom. Eamon McManus is deluded and has created a situation that is very close to King Lear, for those on here who will get the Shakespeare reference. Every major position at Saints is filled with a former player or coach who lacks the credentials to be doing the role. Our CEO is a non-business man hired as a youth team coach and now running the club. Paul Sculthorpe is in charge of it's commercial performance, Tommy Martyn the catering. Ade Gardner is the physio, Paul Wellens the 'Shouty waterboy', Sean Long the defensive coach ( icon_eek.gif ) and Cunningham the most out of his depth head coach ever. McManus and the culture he has created at the club just erode it's greatness by the day. Our recruitment is one of the mysterious grey areas that no one ever admits they're responsible for, but presumably one of those unqualified people listed earlier are. It's not even Aldi/Lidl standard, we're begging the Polski Sklep for handouts. Jack Owens couldn't get in Widnes's side yet Cunningham said he was an amazing signing. Someone actually signed off the Peyroux signing and someone thought signing Lama Tasi was worth it too. We're a big club in name only these days, lacking the ambition or the competence to compete for trophies again. Unless there is a major overhaul, the club will never move forwards either. It's very ridiculous that your vastly superior players still get red-vee fever and lose to us these days.

I must give Hull some credit though, they did okay today. Saints would however have lost to any SL side today, not just Hull.

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How sharper than a serpent's tooth!

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Fair play to Saddened, he always calls it how he sees it and generally I agree with most things he says apart
from us panning saints (which certainly doesn't happen at home).

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Quote: Saddened! "Nice to be called out again for a response.

I'll blame it on us being pants if I may? We're just not very good anymore and we get worse pretty much every season. The whole club is toxic from top to bottom. Eamon McManus is deluded and has created a situation that is very close to King Lear, for those on here who will get the Shakespeare reference. Every major position at Saints is filled with a former player or coach who lacks the credentials to be doing the role. Our CEO is a non-business man hired as a youth team coach and now running the club. Paul Sculthorpe is in charge of it's commercial performance, Tommy Martyn the catering. Ade Gardner is the physio, Paul Wellens the 'Shouty waterboy', Sean Long the defensive coach ( This is exactly what I've been saying for the last 2 years, and got band off the redevee for saying it.
I've not put it as good or detailed as you have.
Just that KC has surrounded himself with personnel that have the same ideals as himself. The only player in that posse that has been influenced to a degree outside of the St Helens millennium old guard, is the assistant journeyman coach Longy.

Ideals have moved on since the days of run from dummy half, run from dummy half, run from dummy half.
Systems have developed to stop this character game plan of certain teams.
Sooner or later we will all get up to speed of the Pie ploy of cut out pass, cut out pass, pass to the winger move, and be wise enough to evade the dirty tactics that follow when the game plan fails.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Ideals have moved on since the days of run from dummy half, run from dummy half, run from dummy half.
Systems have developed to stop this character game plan of certain teams.
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This year Warrington have been relying greatly on te dummy half running of Russell, Penny, Lineham and Clarke. We have done more dummy half runs than any other team in Super League with 315 whilst Saints are one of the least to utilise dummy half runners with just 195.

I look forward to being told I didn't understand what you were saying and that the above is exactl what you was on about.

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