He sounds like he's run out of ideas, and answers.

He looked the same a few months back but then we picked some form up after the 'clear the air' meeting. Doubt it will work twice.

Going off what we saw this last two seasons FMC, I don't think he ever had any.

Get rid

Sometimes RB you really do say some ridiculous things.

You're talking about the most successful coach in our recent history.

League leaders shield
3 challenge cups
2 grand finals

Whatever we think of this season, TS is not a poor coach

He had some exceptional players then. Definitely not now.

Oh for the organisation of Briers, Morley and Hodgson tonight in attack and defence.

No, he's not a poor coach, he's not actually any sort of coach. He has said himself that he lets the players play what's in front of them, which is fine when you have a pack leader like Morley, a 6 like Briers, a hooker like M Monaghan and a fullback like Hodgson - replace those with Asotasi, anyone from about 4 players at 6, Clark and Ratchford (who is no more a fullback than I am) and they get shown up as clueless and rudderless.

Smith is not a coach, he is a manager, and he's managed to take us back 10 years

How much input does Agar have as you seem to have really gone backwards since he came on board.

Nobody is saying he's a bad coach but it's clear for all to see all is not well in the camp.Even at 12-0 down tonight the body language of the players was of a team of no spirit,devoid of ideas on how to score and clearly looking as though they're being coached by Vicky Pollard.

As an outsider that is the most lacklustre and weak performance I've seen you put in against us in probably 20 years.

Smith's time looks to have passed IMO. He has been sensational for you but it all feels a bit stale.

i think TS has a few problems to explain away. Firstly he has been in the job for a long time, so virtually all the players on the pitch were recruited by him. He can't complain that he doesn't have the right material. Secondly, he has built his reputation on being a motivator, and clearly several of those players on the pitch were very half hearted in their play and approach. And any coach has to be able to get individuals to play like a team - what we saw tonight was a completely disjointed effort with most players looking as though they had never seen their team mates before. Finally where were the set moves ?

It seems that the very, very, basics of team coaching are completely lacking at the moment.

All players and coaches have a shelf life and I think TS is getting past his. That is not to say he is a bad coach, and you could see him moving on and enjoying success elsewhere, but I do think the time is approaching when it is best for both TS and the club to separate before all the fond memories fade.

I wonder if Draper will have him in on Monday morning to seek assurances from him on what he plans to do about the dismal way in which we are playing. As if something doesn't change, neither will results.

He left a Leeds team at the peak of its powers (or so he thought) yet he's hanging on at a Wire side that's three years past it's best.

I thought he'd have walked away a while back.

Why would you walk away if some benefactor is willing to pay you for failure ?