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| Brian Bevan?
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| Dessy ?
IIRC isnt there one interpretation of Joels stats which would indicate statistically he is better than BB ?
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| Chris Hcks
Always said Joel is Chris minus the speed, but still he of the best wingers around.
He's having a try-fest at the moment. Lets' hope it continues for another 2 weeks !
It's actually a little difficult to compare because you can't just look at the number of tries scored.
Fa-afili scored a shed load but everyone said it was due to Glesson which was a little unfair I think. (HF is not at the same level as Joel though).
One area that Joel has developed this season - which Chris didn't (or didn't need to) - was his leadership abilities. He's far more vocal now that the likes of Mo and Briers have left and players are looking up to him.
Other wingers - Forster, Henare, Drummond, J.Bevan, B.Bevan and guess there's a few more.
I put Chris and Joel right up there with JB / BB
BB's defence was - allegedly - awful, and leadership skills - again allegedly - low. He simply just scored tries and can't compalin too much about that.
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| He's our best winger since Chris Hicks.
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| Quote: fez1 "Chris Hcks
BB's defence was - allegedly - awful, and leadership skills - again allegedly - low. He simply just scored tries and can't compalin too much about that.'"
My parents used to tell me of a game they went to and BB actually sat down on the pitch in a sulk because nobody was passing the ball to him.
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| joel is a very good winger probably the best we`ve had in super league,his try scoring record speaks volumes for the lad..my best winger would be dessie tho his record cant compare to joels.but if dessie played in todays super league he`d score a hat load..and his tackles would hurt many a winger..ask yourself this would charnley or the miles overated makintson at saints get the better of dessie...we all know the answer to that
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| The Hicks v Monaghan debate has been done to death. For me, the pro-Monas argument is settled by virtue of the fact that Joel has represented the Kangaroos. Unlike England they don't give out jerseys as raffle prizes, you have to be in the very upper echcelons of your trade to even get near.
As for other wingers, Drummond at his Leigh peak would be the only winger worth talking about in SL if he played today. His defence would put most current "star" wingers in row C of the nearest stand if they tried to get the better of him, and there isn't a kick-chase that could have stopped him. RU & the NRL would be selling their family silver to try and snare him.
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| I consider the best winger we have had since Brian Bevan is the Great John Bevan. He was awesome near the line and could motor and defend. I think I have seen all of our wingers since Brian as well.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "The Hicks v Monaghan debate has been done to death. For me, the pro-Monas argument is settled by virtue of the fact that Joel has represented the Kangaroos. Unlike England they don't give out jerseys as raffle prizes, you have to be in the very upper echcelons of your trade to even get near.'"
I guess that settles the Monaghan v Bevan debate too.
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| Quote: mikej "My parents used to tell me of a game they went to and BB actually sat down on the pitch in a sulk because nobody was passing the ball to him.'"
I used to play with a kid who did that almost every week. He would cross his arms and legs and the coach/referee would try to shake loose his arms and legs by lifting him under his arms. We were about 7 years old then, though...
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| Quote: Wire Weaver "I consider the best winger we have had since Brian Bevan is the Great John Bevan. He was awesome near the line and could motor and defend. I think I have seen all of our wingers since Brian as well.'"
What he said
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| This is the beauty of any debate.
Different opinions.
I'm just fortunate to have seen Joel, Hicks, Dessie and JB.
BB would have made the set !
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| Quote: fez1 "This is the beauty of any debate.
Different opinions.
I'm just fortunate to have seen Joel, Hicks, Dessie and JB.
BB would have made the set !'"
I'm the same, but I think Brian Bevan's stats say it all. Has to be the greatest Wire winger ever, would loved to have seen him play.
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| Quote: The All New Chester Wire "Brian Bevan?'"
my reason for saying no is every winger we have had since Brian Bevan (ok with the exceptions of Roach, Fawcett, Parsley, and Andy Bennet) would have scored that interception against widnes.
Joel has an alarming lack of pace..... but he scores tries that no other can due to his physical prowess and knack of knowing exactly where to put himself on a rugby field.
he's a top top player,* hopefully we can replace him with Brett Morris ( ) and we wont have anything to worry about when Joel retires....
(*quote from Brendan Rodgers)
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "my reason for saying no is every winger we have had since Brian Bevan (ok with the exceptions of Roach, Fawcett, Parsley, and Andy Bennet) would have scored that interception against widnes.
Joel has an alarming lack of pace..... but he scores tries that no other can due to his physical prowess and knack of knowing exactly where to put himself on a rugby field.
he's a top top player,* hopefully we can replace him with Brett Morris (
Fully agree
Was thinking to myself following the interception at Cas
Has a slower Winger ever scored more tries in the history of professional RL.
Ever noticed Jpoeal returning the ball to the practice up'n'under kicker during the warm-up.
How does he do that ? - a true indication of his lower arm, wrist, hand strength & size !
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