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Been a naughty boy again, some people never learn.

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"designed to help Gleeson lose weight" .....nice
Too many pies?

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire ""designed to help Gleeson lose weight" .....nice
Too many pies?'"


That's what comes of playing for Wigan icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Fearnhead Cross "That's what comes of playing for Wigan
There's certainly an elephant in the room isn't there?

I'm not suggesting for a second that it has anything to do with Wigan RLFC, but there is a distinct pattern forming in terms of geographic origins of players and 'substance'-related problems in rugby league.

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yeah well please don't browny. Everyone just stick to the news report and not be throwing out the 'well everyone knows' thanks.

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Quote: just_browny "There's certainly an elephant in the room isn't there?

I'm not suggesting for a second that it has anything to do with Wigan RLFC, but there is a distinct pattern forming in terms of geographic origins of players and 'substance'-related problems in rugby league.'"


Cunningham was from St Helens?

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End of career. Because its a drugs ban he wont be allowed to play RU. This also explains why no side has even tried to sign him since he left Hull. What a waste of a great talent.

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Good player who with the right application could have been great. Quite sad really

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire ""designed to help Gleeson lose weight" .....nice
Too many pies?'"


www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... violations

According to that the drug he tested positive for was methylhexaneamine which is what Kolo Toure got banned for at Man City. The drug only got added to the banned list in 2010 and has caught a few footballers out particularly because you can buy slimming supplements from retailers that say "contains no banned substances" but have that in. In Toure's case the offending material was traced to diet pills which he had been using because he was worried about failing City's BMI tests at training.

Interesting that the ex Hudds player Ben Cooper who was Hulls conditioner last season is one of the people who has now been banned, which suggests that he was involved in the banned substance Gleeson was taking. Could have been a case of picking up an out of shape Gleeson who had been on the sidelines at Wigan, trying to get him to fighting weight ASAP and one of the substances being used turning out to be banned so all parties have been punished.
Quote: Builth Wells Wire ""designed to help Gleeson lose weight" .....nice
Too many pies?'"


www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... violations

According to that the drug he tested positive for was methylhexaneamine which is what Kolo Toure got banned for at Man City. The drug only got added to the banned list in 2010 and has caught a few footballers out particularly because you can buy slimming supplements from retailers that say "contains no banned substances" but have that in. In Toure's case the offending material was traced to diet pills which he had been using because he was worried about failing City's BMI tests at training.

Interesting that the ex Hudds player Ben Cooper who was Hulls conditioner last season is one of the people who has now been banned, which suggests that he was involved in the banned substance Gleeson was taking. Could have been a case of picking up an out of shape Gleeson who had been on the sidelines at Wigan, trying to get him to fighting weight ASAP and one of the substances being used turning out to be banned so all parties have been punished.


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I don't know all of what's gone on but it is sad to see such talent be wasted.

Even though he left Saints under a cloud he was still a world clas centre - I remember watching his performance against Oz just after coming back from the ban and licking my lips in anticipation of what he'd do for us.
And to be fair - he did, but the 'bad influence' aura grew and when TS came in he had very fixed ideas and knew Glees wasn't the type of player he wanted - I guess for attitude as much as anything else, and we got a very good deal out of it.
It all went downhill from there.

Very sad.

Not sure where this leaves him and the rest of his life. He needs to get some help and a reality check.

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Where something happens with Gleeson, one Mr Sean Long never seems to be too far away! icon_lol.gif

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So in summary:

Sean Long purchases a supplement;

Sean Long takes the supplement to the Hull head of conditioning to get approval to use and confirmatioin not on banned list;

Ben Cooper (Hull head of conditioning) confirms to Sean Long that there is no problem with teh supplement;

Martin Gleeson struggling with fitness so his mate Sean Long gives him some supplement that has been cleared by their club's head of conditioning;

Gleeson tests positive;

Cooper, Gleeson and James Rule (Hull's Chief Executive) come up with some story to keep Long out of the picture and claim it was Gleeson who approached Cooper for clearance of the product.

Truth comes out and all three are in big trouble.


I have to feel sorry for Gleeson in this instance. As with the betting scandal him and Long are naive in the extreme and appear not to have a brain-cell between them. Weren't they both at Saints when Cunningham had similar trouble and seen how he dealt with it and escaped a ban.

The role of the two Hull club's employees suggests a club being run by idiots and amateurs. I hope for Hull's sake the new owners have a brain.

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