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I've just watched the Boots N All "The Tries" for this week, and three key weaknesses of St Helens stood out more blatantly than I've ever seen before and really do seem uncannily to match what we have done very well at the start of the season.

1) Susceptible to Kicks - A feature which I can't say Saints have really shown before, and Matt King seems to have a ferocious hunger for the kick to the wing at the moment. Surely more of a weapon with Briers in supply, but as seen also without.

2) Vulnerability around the Ruck - Yet again something i can't recall seeing in Saints, I think the Crusaders scored 2 tries in quick movement from dummy half, a feature we have been very strong in so far, Mickey Higham on Saturday a great example.

3) Weakness to Offloads - And my final point merely highlights that Saints really seemed to lack a scrambling defense which has made them so tough to beat. From watching the highlights it seemed that any Crusader offload resulted in a Try. And at Warrington - we have played some beautiful attacking rugby this season.

Anyway - merely 3 points I picked up from seeing the Saints highlights.

Thoughts?

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Quote: Finally Champions "I've just watched the Boots N All "The Tries" for this week, and three key weaknesses of St Helens stood out more blatantly than I've ever seen before and really do seem uncannily to match what we have done very well at the start of the season.

1) Susceptible to Kicks - A feature which I can't say Saints have really shown before, and Matt King seems to have a ferocious hunger for the kick to the wing at the moment. Surely more of a weapon with Briers in supply, but as seen also without.

2) Vulnerability around the Ruck - Yet again something i can't recall seeing in Saints, I think the Crusaders scored 2 tries in quick movement from dummy half, a feature we have been very strong in so far, Mickey Higham on Saturday a great example.

3) Weakness to Offloads - And my final point merely highlights that Saints really seemed to lack a scrambling defense which has made them so tough to beat. From watching the highlights it seemed that any Crusader offload resulted in a Try. And at Warrington - we have played some beautiful attacking rugby this season.

Anyway - merely 3 points I picked up from seeing the Saints highlights.

Thoughts?

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It reads like everything that enabled Saints to win the past, is now their Achilles.

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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that. [/quote] Another classic: [quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban. Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player. Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666 0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match". Therefore ZERO.[/quote] Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg



If you think were going to perform against you as we did against the Crusaders,you might be in for a shock.

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



Quote: Don Brennan "If you think were going to perform against you as we did against the Crusaders,you might be in for a shock.'"


The nature of time and space means nobody knows how either team is going to perform yet. Damn laws of the universe.

However I'm expecting to see the Saints of my nightmares. The only good thing about Saints continually ripping out our beating heart and showing it to us before we die is that you get used to it. Like that scene in Bond with the knotted rope - sure, it hurts, but you get used to it.

Absolutely no poignancy about our (possible) last visit to KR. Looking forward to the trips to widnes for the next couple of years.

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In the world cup, Gardener was undone by the high ball everytime

I was surprised last season that he wasn't targetted more than he was

I am sure Atkins and Kingy will be breathing down his neck on Friday night

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Quote: Finally Champions "From watching the highlights it seemed that any Crusader offload resulted in a Try.'"


icon_lol.gif Perhaps the highlights didn't show any offloads that came to nothing?

We look like we might be close to full strength for the weekend, with Puletua and Wellens definitely back and Gidley/Soliola being monitored.

Young Lomax is out which is a blow, but at least Gardner is fit again to replace him.

If the bodies are back I'd like to see:

Wellens
Gardner
Gidley
Wheeler
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Graham
Cunningham
Hargreaves/Fozzard
Wilkin
Flannery
Roby

Moore
Faasavalu
Puletua
Soliola

If we can get that team out on the pitch, or one close to it, I feel the rumours of our demise may be a little premature.

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Rather than the high kick to King I'd like to see a few grubbers in behind meli on the 4th.

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The backs and the backrow are giving massive advantages to Wire. The front row is also weaker.

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Quote: Saddened! "The backs and the backrow are giving massive advantages to Wire. The front row is also weaker.'"


But you'll be stronger in the halves, especially if Briers is injured. Plus that almost all Samoan bench is pretty scary looking, in terms of the impact they could make.

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Quote: FearTheVee "
Wellens
Gardner
Gidley
Wheeler
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Graham
Cunningham
Hargreaves/Fozzard
Wilkin
Flannery
Roby

Moore
Faasavalu
Puletua
Soliola'"


If we can beat a team like that then we must have ALL trophies in the bag this season!
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Quote: Saddened! "The backs and the backrow are giving massive advantages to Wire. The front row is also weaker.'"


The outside backs I'd agree with, we're clearly weaker. I think we're a better bet in the halves though.

I'm not sure the backrow gives too much away - Wilkin/Flannery/Roby/Soliola and Clough if he comes into the reckoning can hold their own. I don't think any side in SL has a "massive" advantage over them.

Front row I'd agree with - Wire have an excellent third prop in Paul Wood to add to Carvell/Morley, but I think Graham/Puletua/Fozzard or Hargreaves/Fasavalu can front up to most packs.

Should be a classic, gutted I can't go and it isn't on telly. It's weekends like this I hate living down south.

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We need to Shut down Eastmond hes are biggest threat.

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Quote: bombheadwire "We need to Shut down Eastmond hes are biggest threat.'"


It's Pryce you need to worry about, he's been in sensational form over the last month.

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