Lets stop attacking our own players. If a player isnt upto scratch and doesnt deserve to play for wire then TS will make that decision. He is miles better qualified to make the decision than any of the d*#kh&%ds on here.

I am getting fed up with our so called supported calling our players - we need to get behind them and give them confidence not a kicking, a lot of posters slagging him off probably werent even at the game last night and only saw what sky wanted to show them. Get behind all the team at least until the end of the season and stop whining.

The semi final proves what can happen when we get behind them

slagging who off?

penny when hes here or usually clarke wen penny aint around

so far one person has slagged off penny quickly followed by 5/6 pages of people sticking up for him

It was also Johnson and rah earlier and also vinnie, picks and blythe.

hmm Im not on here slagging our players off but I can understand the frustrations of some.
Regardless of the team out last night the performance was nothing short of shocking. People paid decent money last night and its alright brushing it under the table singing wembley but that wound me up more than the wigan fans.
The amount of dropped ball and dropping off tackles allowing them the quick play the ball was shocking.
We could easily finish outside the 8 which is an embarrassment

Clarke was e on Friday, as usual.

Finishing out of the 8 will be down to our pre-season and our performances before TS became head coach.

To be honest before TS came in I fully expected us to miss out on the 8 anyway so to still be in with a shout is an absolute bonus.

Now then had you told me we would be cc finalists this season I would have taken you on at any odds you wanted therefore the fact that we have the opportunity to go and support our team at the CC Final is an absolute bonus.

Tony Smith knows what he is doing, let him coach, after last night I doubt any of those kids will have played themselves into a spot in the team anyway.

I think we have to be careful here. Yesterday i heard someone say, " its Tony Smiths team that got us to Wembley" and in the next breath they said "its Cullens team and thats why we are not in the top 8".
Can't possibly have it both ways.

Also Tonys results since he came in charge are NOT top 8 material.The results since TS has been boss places us around 9th, which ironically is approx were we are.

I do think Smith is a top coach, but i also thought Cullen was a top coach as well.
If we lose the cup and finish outside the top 8, will that be a acceptable season for Wire? For me not.

But Cullen has had nothing to do with the team since last May Jimmy Lowes on the other hand has

Was that tongue in cheek?

But by just looking at things as black and white as that it doesn't tell the fullpicture.

We are one win off the playoffs.

We were completely under-prepared for the season under a different 'coach' and had a shocking start. The improvements we have shown under Smith have convinced me, and many others that had he been in charge from the start we would have done better.

Even when Smith first took over there were issues, it wasn't a case of clickinghis fingers and sorting everything out. Games like the Quins away game, and the Easter weekend, were IMO as a result of the pre-season.

Slowly but surely Smith has made his mark,and we are now a decent team, we are two wins off fifth.

Never happy are we. In the CC final; chance of a top eight finish in spite of the dreadful start to the season.
I am pinning more hope on next season when TS has had the pre season to prepare.
Wembley is just an unexpected, if welcome bonus this season.
12 more sleeps!