FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Warrington Wolves > Play off structure ..... Made easier
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Star323No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Just a suggestion regarding the play off system so it will create a situation where you`ll play every game to the maximum
We need an incentive to do this so how about
1. Winner of the league as a reward goes straight into Grand Final
2. Remaining top 4 , 2 plays 5 and 3 plays 4
Winners of these games play each other for Grand Final spot with the highest ranked team at home
Simmplles !!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach294No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2015Aug 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Would not happen. That would mean whoever wins the league gets 2/3 weeks off to play against a team that is in form and match fit.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2899
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016May 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



1 V 8
2 v 7
3 V 6
4 V 5

Has to be the most sensible way.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5587
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



How about the team that has been the best all the season are champions. Each team could play each other home and away and awarded points for winning. At the end we could tot up the points and give the team that has been the best the trophy. Simple!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Top 3 for me. 1st straight into the final, then 2nd versus third slug it out to face the most consistent league team in the final.
The only time they will change it is when 8th place becomes superleague champions after winning only 50% of there league games.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3869No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Genuine post (cause most people on this board can't tell stinging sarcasm):
If they insist on having a playoff (which sky do), the 1 vs 8 et cet is the only sensible idea.

Sky will want top 8. Top 6 could work, maybe. If I was to arrange a hair-brained system.

1 vs 2 for gf spot (with loser out)
3 vs 4 and 5 vs 6 for another go.
W1 vs W2 for other Gf spot.
1 or 2 vs W1 or W2 in the GF.

In fact, I really like that.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2900No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Yeah, a system where finishing third is probably more likely to result in you getting ti the Grand Final than finishing second is clearly the best way to go.

jdvirgin strikes again.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2866
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Nov 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



bring top 6 back

1 v 2 ---- winner to GF

3 v 6
4 v 5

winners play off and the winner of this play off gets to play loser of 1v2 for place. Benefit is teams will push for top 2 place as a) you only need one more win to get to OT and b) you at least get a second shot if you fail the first time.

After both Wigan and Warrington failed to make it to OT last year, it was this syetm that the RL press were crying out for to return. I think it was still used in the championship until last year. This year (if I heard correct) the RFL have adopted a SL playoff style system for the championship. ..........Well at least we already get to play at the HJ!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: mikej "bring top 6 back

1 v 2 ---- winner to GF

3 v 6
4 v 5

winners play off and the winner of this play off gets to play loser of 1v2 for place. Benefit is teams will push for top 2 place as a) you only need one more win to get to OT and b) you at least get a second shot if you fail the first time.

After both Wigan and Warrington failed to make it to OT last year, it was this syetm that the RL press were crying out for to return. I think it was still used in the championship until last year. This year (if I heard correct) the RFL have adopted a SL playoff style system for the championship. ..........Well at least we already get to play at the HJ!'"




That's the best format IMO.

How did the top 5 work? (I'm sure we had top 5 play off at some point)

RankPostsTeam
International Star592
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: gary numan "How about the team that has been the best all the season are champions. Each team could play each other home and away and awarded points for winning. At the end we could tot up the points and give the team that has been the best the trophy. Simple!'"



To be fair dont think that would work,as if it was as simple as that other sports like football maybe might do something similar!! icon_frustrated.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner4113
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Where does this idea come from that the play-offs come from Sky?

We had play-offs to decide the champions before BSkyB was a twinkle in Rupert Murdoch's eye.

Top 5 is the best system, the people who slag off the very idea of playoffs are bitter Warrington fans who can't get over the fact we bombed out last year.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8019No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Judder Man "Top 3 for me. 1st straight into the final, then 2nd versus third slug it out to face the most consistent league team in the final.
The only time they will change it is when 8th place becomes superleague champions after winning only 50% of there league games.'"



Perfecto

Echoing my sentiments exactly, on a post from Friday night.

With this system, you get 2 games of high intensity, and a game or so less, for the players who will be involved in the end of season 3-4 nations/world cup..

What you don't get, is flotsum and jetsum like the teams in 8th who've lost half their games, involved in a competition that's "supposed" to be for the elite.

Everyone's a winner

RankPostsTeam
International Star3869No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Yeah, a system where finishing third is probably more likely to result in you getting ti the Grand Final than finishing second is clearly the best way to go.

jdvirgin strikes again.'"


You're a very angry and confused man, aren't you?

Although your simplistic and petty swipe had some merit, my point was that the 1 vs 2 winner will get a rest week. But if you think that rest weeks are overrated, fine.

You could incorporate a leg system for the lower teams. Aggregate scores maybe. Less benefit to lower placed teams and encourages a more competitive league.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2900No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Well if finishing third meant you had to win two home games against lower ranked opposition to get to the final and finishing second meant you had to win an away game against the best team in the league I'd rather finish third than second. Indeed given that the second placed team is likely to be better than the teams that finished no higher than fourth then finishing third is arguably better than finishing first under your system in terms of having an easier passage to the Grand Final.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3869No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Well if finishing third meant you had to win two home games against lower ranked opposition to get to the final and finishing second meant you had to win an away game against the best team in the league I'd rather finish third than second. Indeed given that the second placed team is likely to be better than the teams that finished no higher than fourth then finishing third is arguably better than finishing first under your system in terms of having an easier passage to the Grand Final.'"


Yeah it is no where near a perfect system (I would prefer a 5 or 3 team play off structure). My idea was trying to tick a lot of boxes (including length of playoffs, competitiveness and making the league relevant) I thought that one game between the best and second best and then a break would be favorable to two games and then the GF in the mindset of the teams- I could be well off base.
There is something small to play for in coming first- home game
coming top 2- a direct line to the GF
and top 3- a home game.


Maybe if we tried a practical example...

As things stand now (admittedly not necessarily an indicator of the final standing) the playoffs would be...

Week 1-
Wigan at home to Warrington
Catalan at home to St.Helens
Huddersfield at home to Leeds

All competitive games, would you agree? And in my opinion all worthy winners of a Super league title.

Let's play it out at random:

Week 2
Say it is Wigan that win and are in the GF
and then it is Sts vs Leeds with sts at home

Week 3- GF
Wigan vs Saints

Wigan come in fresh and Saints have had 2 very hard games

But it could be any combination and, excluding Catalans, there could be a chance of a previous final from the past 3 years.

It isn't perfect but I would argue it is an interesting idea and, between me, you and anyone who isn't the RFL, it is more likely to incorporate viable and competitive teams.

Teams like Crusaders won't be in the playoffs.


Even if this idea is just not worth thinking about, specifically. The idea of a sudden death concept and a smaller pool is something that I think could, and maybe should, be thought about and incorporated/

21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


10.37060546875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
10m
Fixtures
BigTime
2
23m
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
32m
2025 Recruitment
Highlander
208
35m
Film game
karetaker
5757
Recent
How many games will we win
PopTart
46
Recent
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
Recent
Salford
karetaker
54
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Fixtures
BigTime
2
1m
2025 Recruitment
Highlander
208
1m
Salford placed in special measures
poplar cats
111
1m
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
1m
How many games will we win
PopTart
46
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
8
1m
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
2m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
192
2m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40800
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
8
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
PopTart
46
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS