It will be interesting to see what the response is to season ticket sales for 2016
There is always the 'hard core' section who renewal without analysing this dreadful season we've had maybe 5000? I'm not sure,but I'm guessing that we will struggle to get past 7500 sales for next year
It has been evident all the empty seats in the big games, Wigan matches have attracted 13000 plus every game but not the case on Friday
People are voting with their feet now as I presuming alot of those seats are ticket holders.
Keep the faith? Who in?
Without picking out the usual suspects I can see really bad pre season ticket sales which will show a real fall from grace...... One thing is certain and I don't mean Agar (if only) going I mean the club has a hell of a job convincing the fans for next season and beyond to get on-board
Personally I'm absolutely gutted I was expecting to finish in the top 4 and going to Wembley when drawing HKR.... Alas the season is now over and I dare say they'll be low attendances v Hull and especially Catalans both of which I think we will struggle against.
As critique to Tony Smith I love the guy as coach and he's brought great times to this club in recent years but he needs to read these threads and understand that we don't want Agar here and he really needs to evaluate the dead wood, payout their contracts and get shut...

There is a painful irony that, after the great run-ins we have had for four years, in the season where "every second counts" we're done and dusted by mid-August. I still want Tony Smith to turn it round but next year is critical.

Your logic is a little off relating to season tickets and empty seats. Friday's game, dire as it was, was covered by the 2015 season ticket so it it more likely that pay per match fans never rocked up rather than season ticket holders. You'll also find the majority of fans seated in the centre sections of the north stand have had the same seats since we moved to the HJ and are unlikely not to renew.

Why is Smith still immune from criticism in your eyes, out of interest? As Head of Football he appointed Agar, who is supposedly to blame for all and sundry. He made the poor signings, hired the conditioner who is allegedly now to blame for the season and persists with the badflling team selections.

As Head man, responsibility lies in my eyes purely with Smith.

S/T prices have been held for the 3rd year running.
Now thats what I call good value.

Get your season tickets , the only way is up

Re season tickets & anyone paying on the day for that matter, the most difficult part is to get people back out of their armchairs & turn their backs on the sky coverage once they have fallen into the tv habit.
As for Agar ,i am beginning to wonder why he came in as assistant & was later touted as first team coach.....Is he being set up to be the ultimate fall guy for this years failings ?

I have fell into this habit.

Much cheaper. NowTV £5.95 for 24h day pass instead of the £61 for 2 x Northstand tickets.
More convenient.
See the game better.
Don't miss any atmosphere as there is none to miss.

I love going to games ,not a great watcher of wire matches on TV , following the wire is the greatest thing ,nothing is scripted, nothing guaranteed except having a good time with my rugby mates. Season tickets are still good value and I'll definitely be getting one , finances allowing

There will always be the band wagon brigade, team does well people will come, fails and forget it that will always be the case. Had we got to wembley i guess 20k would have gone, that one always annoys me as where are they on a weekly basis, but as as i said thats just the way it is.

No need to be annoyed I don't think. I suspect 20K going to Wembley is better than us taking our 7,500 core support. Lots of people make a day of it at wembley. For example I took my mum, daughter and missus making 4. That's 3 more than would normally go to a home game. They will never become regular supporters. I think factors like that explain it.

So you would have preferred it in 2009 had we lifted the cup in front of the 200 max who usually travel to London away? Don't be soft.

You're absolutely right about TS responsibility
I'm not saying he should take the blame every coach should shoulder blame to a degree, but just look at what he's done for this club
We were dead and buried under Cullen, new stadium mediocre team performances just like this season
The timing was right to get shut of, in came Smith and so did the silverware
I'm not going to slate him personally for one bad season.
I'm sure the majority agree but there are people who don't and I'm sure he himself is gutted by what's happened.
As mentioned next season is crucial

I'll be renewing my season ticket because, despite some dire performances this season, the new arrivals for next indicate exciting times, maybe! I didn't go on Friday because (a) it was pouring down - wimp I know, and (b) I dreaded what Wigan might do to us. I did watch the first half on TV but couldn't bear to watch the inept display any further. Mind you, as badly as we played, Wigan only scored 5 tries. A better team would have posted a cricket score. And if the rules governing the video refs aren't clarified I might just pack up all together after next season.

Were did i say thats what i prefer, my point was people will follow success and not bother when we fail. Someone as already said about fridays attendance had that game meant more it would have been nearer the 13k we have had in the past, just dont try to twist my words.