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Technically 5 dead rubbers and arguably Tony Smiths worst ever season.
A price to pay for a season long weak pack?

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Monaghan, Asotasi, Atkins, Wheeler, Harrison

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Beat me to that

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In association football do the middle section of teams who won't get into European places and have no worries about relegation have 38 dead rubbers a season?

There's a lot to play for: making a good show of ourselves, not finishing 8th, getting younger lads used to playing in the first team, getting Sandow settled in...

We need to use a good end to this season even if we're not getting into the Play-offs. I don't think a single one of genuinely believed we were going to get to Old Trafford this season anyway and I've never really been confident about even getting into the top four.

We aren't good enough. We aren't failing, despite not playing well. We're comfortably the 6th/7th best team in this competition and that's where we'll finish.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "Monaghan, Asotasi, Atkins, Wheeler, Harrison

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None good enough anymore for Warrington and three not good enough for super league. Atkins tries but just doesn't have the brain for a centre and his athleticism is no longer enough to cover up for that.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "Monaghan, Asotasi, Atkins, Wheeler, Harrison

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Add in more here. The only guys with any merit tonight are Sims, Hill, Myler and Penny (for effort, not skill)

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Our season is over with five games to go..........(sky have said that during tonight's commentary as well..so it must be true.)

Sell those last games to me please..........

How do i get up for dead rubbers where we are most likely to get our bottoms wiped with sandpaper?

when was the last time we had five games left that meant completely all.....

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I'd argue that at the minute they are far from dead rubbers. Win all five games and will probably finish in the top four. Problem is winning all five games - it simply isn't going to happen.

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its a difficult sell isn't it? There will be 6500 for the Wigan game...and Wigan will bring 3000

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The only way I would go to another game this season now is if smith resigns and Michael Monaghan is made first team coach.

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



Can't make the Hull game due to my niece deciding to christen her son on that day. Right now I actually feel quite relieved.

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After we failed to beat Leeds in October 2011, supporters winged on here for three years straight that clubs shouldn't be able to win from fifth.

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Not sure what you're suggesting the RFL do - give us two points anyway to keep it interesting?

We've lost 13 games out of 25 and a slow, painful wind-down to the season is no less than we deserve.

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Play with less pressure, integrate some of the younger lads like the King bros who've looked out of their depth at this level into being comfortable in the first team, get Sandow settled in properly, finish as high up as we can, sort some things out for next season.

Every minute does matter. Each time we've had a lethargic defensive line, each time we've missed tackles, each time we've executed poor plays with the ball throughout the season every one of those things mattered and have come to a head now.

So let's make the rest of the minutes count for the reasons I first mentioned.

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Quote: Thelonius "I'd argue that at the minute they are far from dead rubbers. Win all five games and will probably finish in the top four. Problem is winning all five games - it simply isn't going to happen.'"
Struggling to win 1 game at the moment let alone 5.Confidence is shat so will probably lose all 5.

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