Ellis stars again, why he’s at hull when we have two duck egg second rowers , Curry lacks aggression and holmes lacks everything, one of the worst signings since jack Hughes.

Again against Wigan we tackled ok early on but without aggression, not one Wigan forward looked bothered or shuck up in the tackle, resulting in forwards still fresh in last 20= points at back end, we are desperate for a forward who lives on the edge like the young wigan pack, bring back Ellis.

Not big enough according to our coach. He probably would've got shut of John Bateman for the same reason.

Well Huddersfield pack not small and just read Ellis was best forward on the pitch and as said are two duck eggs worst second rowers in super league curry lots of skills but lacks aggression and work rate, Holmes well!!!!!!!!!!. There was a quote from cas fans saying he was just like Superben, he must have a buttie van then, that must be the only resemblance.

Fantastic.

I hope we can keep him at Hull. He needs to work on his defence but he's a cracking kid.

We think that too, unfortunately our coach seems to think otherwise.

It's a tough one. With everybody saying our pack's too small, Longstaff may well have paid the price.

I'd think, and hope we've got a decent shot of keeping him next season.

You'll have Currie, Holmes, Nicholson and McGuire going for those 2nd row slots.

Gazwire mate he’s better than Holmes now never mind in the future when Ellis develops, longstaff to stay hull can have Holmes.

Maybe have a quick peek at Oliver Holmes’ social media account and see if you’d prefer Longstaff to Holmes. One is a player, one is playing at it.

I haven't seen enough of him, but I take your word for it. Others have said he's been good since he left too. Holmes seems to be a shadow of himself.

Holmes has been quite frankly the worst signing I have seen in 40 years of watching wire. And don't come back saying latu because he is worse!! The fact that we are going to lose longstaff so one of powells mates keeps his place and big pay packet makes me extremely angry!!!

It's not great tbh, I agree. Asotasi must be up there and that Aussie halfback (forgotten his name) who went back earlier probs 5 years ago. Holmes is poor and that attempted tackle on French was diabolical. I too would swap him with Longstaff in a heartbeat.

In Holmes’ defence, picked out of position, made 63 tackles. Yes, missed a couple of crucial tackles, but you could argue he was out on his feet long before the first Wigan try and should have been subbed off.

He’s not a good player, horribly out of form and confidence. But that can only be exasperated by being picked one week, dropped to the bench the next and then thrown in out of position after that.

Amor was the safer bet for Wigan away, but no sign of him. Is he injured or on the naughty step?