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Hundreds sign petition for ‘vote of no confidence’ against Nigel Wood
www.totalrl.com/hundreds-sign-pe ... igel-wood/
Think it's 1600+ now
https://www.change.org/p/rfl-nigel-wood ... confidence.
Basis is outlined as ...
2007 compared to 2016
2007 salary cap 2007  £1.6m                                       2016     £1.85m
2007 challenge cup final attendance 84,241Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 2016Â Â Â Â Â 76,235Â
2007 average attendance   9,855                              2016      ‎9,134
Player Participation 2007     131,900                         2017  44,900
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2017/0 ... pation-uk/
Sport England grant money IN 2017 Is 10.75 million 38% deduction from the previous four-year cycle
General decline in the standard of Super league.
A decline in the standard of match officials.
The decline of reserve teams within SL / champ clubs.
There has been no Great Britain team since 2007.
The national side has failed to beat Australia under Nigel Wood.
Bradford bulls entering administration on numerous times after a number of owners was accepted by the RFL.
A Decline in media coverage.
The Loss of top English players to NRL and RFU due to salary cap restrictions.
2009
The introduction of the "club call"
Top 6 extended to 8 teams for the playoffs (meaning over half the teams make the playoffs)
The introduction of licensing that was eventually scrapped meaning clubs like Leigh, Fev, Halifax, and Widnes all pushed aside to make way for Celtic Crusaders and Salford to make it a 14 team league.
 2011
The non event that was England v Exiles that lasted 3 years and then was scrapped.
 2012
The doomed Stobart deal trucks with 100 Super League Graphics on the side.
"We had lots of interest and there was more than one offer on the table but, without a shadow of doubt, the offer from Stobart was one the RFL and the clubs themselves thought was too good to turn down"
www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... al-4961172
The League signed a three-year deal with Stobart in January, but the clubs have decided to exercise an opt-out clause after 12 months.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ances.html
Celtic crusaders withdraw Super League application.
 2013
Super league had no sponsorship= no problem apparently says Wood.
https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2013/01 ... ague-boss/
 Appointment of Ralf Rimmer.
 Appointment of Brian Barwick ..........................what does he do ?Â
 2014
The "club call" idea scrapped.
No England home fixture after a successful 2013 world cup ................ LEGACY ????
Accepting the first offer put on the table by sky 200m for 5 seasons.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... V-row.html
 2015
 Sport England reduce rugby league funding.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ru ... nding-cut/
 Wood changes the league structure yet again as it is cut to 12.
 2016
 Joe Cobb becoming the third 'man in the middle' to quit within 12 months George Stokes and Matt Thomason. www.express.co.uk/sport/otherspo ... lph-Rimmer
 WRL has confirmed that the RFL will cut £70,000 in funding from junior development at the end of 2016.Â
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... gby-league
Super and middle 8s introduced along with controversial MPG.
 Announcing the four nations venues with only 6 months notice. 1 game being a double header in non heartland Coventry played in front of only 21,009 in a stadium capacity of 32,609 on a freezing evening on bonfire night.
 www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/rugby-league-fans-slam-ridiculous-12135126
 2017
A England training camp to Dubai cancelled costing the game £100,000+
Sport England grant money 10.75 million 38% deduction from the previous four-year cycle.
www.totalrl.com/rugby-leagues-sp ... cut-by-38/
 Sheffield Eagles, York City Knights and Swinton lions enter financial difficulties.
Charging fans to stream Englands ONLY warm up match before the world cup and turning down the exposure to 1 million plus viewers on BBC who had only reportedly offered 10k as they was only given 6 weeks notice !!! the RFL then refused to release any figures on how many paid for the stream. www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/603457/England-Samoa-Wayne-Bennett-RFL-BBC- |
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Hundreds sign petition for ‘vote of no confidence’ against Nigel Wood
www.totalrl.com/hundreds-sign-pe ... igel-wood/
Think it's 1600+ now
https://www.change.org/p/rfl-nigel-wood ... confidence.
Basis is outlined as ...
2007 compared to 2016
2007 salary cap 2007  £1.6m                                       2016     £1.85m
2007 challenge cup final attendance 84,241Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 2016Â Â Â Â Â 76,235Â
2007 average attendance   9,855                              2016      ‎9,134
Player Participation 2007     131,900                         2017  44,900
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2017/0 ... pation-uk/
Sport England grant money IN 2017 Is 10.75 million 38% deduction from the previous four-year cycle
General decline in the standard of Super league.
A decline in the standard of match officials.
The decline of reserve teams within SL / champ clubs.
There has been no Great Britain team since 2007.
The national side has failed to beat Australia under Nigel Wood.
Bradford bulls entering administration on numerous times after a number of owners was accepted by the RFL.
A Decline in media coverage.
The Loss of top English players to NRL and RFU due to salary cap restrictions.
2009
The introduction of the "club call"
Top 6 extended to 8 teams for the playoffs (meaning over half the teams make the playoffs)
The introduction of licensing that was eventually scrapped meaning clubs like Leigh, Fev, Halifax, and Widnes all pushed aside to make way for Celtic Crusaders and Salford to make it a 14 team league.
 2011
The non event that was England v Exiles that lasted 3 years and then was scrapped.
 2012
The doomed Stobart deal trucks with 100 Super League Graphics on the side.
"We had lots of interest and there was more than one offer on the table but, without a shadow of doubt, the offer from Stobart was one the RFL and the clubs themselves thought was too good to turn down"
www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... al-4961172
The League signed a three-year deal with Stobart in January, but the clubs have decided to exercise an opt-out clause after 12 months.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ances.html
Celtic crusaders withdraw Super League application.
 2013
Super league had no sponsorship= no problem apparently says Wood.
https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2013/01 ... ague-boss/
 Appointment of Ralf Rimmer.
 Appointment of Brian Barwick ..........................what does he do ?Â
 2014
The "club call" idea scrapped.
No England home fixture after a successful 2013 world cup ................ LEGACY ????
Accepting the first offer put on the table by sky 200m for 5 seasons.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... V-row.html
 2015
 Sport England reduce rugby league funding.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ru ... nding-cut/
 Wood changes the league structure yet again as it is cut to 12.
 2016
 Joe Cobb becoming the third 'man in the middle' to quit within 12 months George Stokes and Matt Thomason. www.express.co.uk/sport/otherspo ... lph-Rimmer
 WRL has confirmed that the RFL will cut £70,000 in funding from junior development at the end of 2016.Â
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... gby-league
Super and middle 8s introduced along with controversial MPG.
 Announcing the four nations venues with only 6 months notice. 1 game being a double header in non heartland Coventry played in front of only 21,009 in a stadium capacity of 32,609 on a freezing evening on bonfire night.
 www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/rugby-league-fans-slam-ridiculous-12135126
 2017
A England training camp to Dubai cancelled costing the game £100,000+
Sport England grant money 10.75 million 38% deduction from the previous four-year cycle.
www.totalrl.com/rugby-leagues-sp ... cut-by-38/
 Sheffield Eagles, York City Knights and Swinton lions enter financial difficulties.
Charging fans to stream Englands ONLY warm up match before the world cup and turning down the exposure to 1 million plus viewers on BBC who had only reportedly offered 10k as they was only given 6 weeks notice !!! the RFL then refused to release any figures on how many paid for the stream. www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/603457/England-Samoa-Wayne-Bennett-RFL-BBC- | |
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Done. Over17 years. Only two men have been in charge of the sport you love. And not a lot has changed since.
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I'm no fan of Wood but let's be honest comparing 2017 to the year before the Global Financial Crisis is a bit like saying the lost city of Atlantis is not as good as it was before the sea covered it up.
Wood has done some good and almost certainly kept things stable when necessary in hard times. Whether he is the right man to take us forward from here is another question. He's had his time and done his job, let's look forward.
Kind of reminds me of another situation involving a man in charge... can we start such a petition as well?
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Quote: easyWire "I'm no fan of Wood but let's be honest comparing 2017 to the year before the Global Financial Crisis is a bit like saying the lost city of Atlantis is not as good as it was before the sea covered it up.
Wood has done some good and almost certainly kept things stable when necessary in hard times. Whether he is the right man to take us forward from here is another question. He's had his time and done his job, let's look forward.
Kind of reminds me of another situation involving a man in charge... can we start such a petition as well?'"
Club call
Top 6 -> Top 8 -> Top 4
Dubai
Salary Cap Stasis
Decline of Sport England money
Stobart
Decline of player participation
Are not due to the Global Economic crisis of 2008.
Anyone can start a petition on www.change.org. |
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Quote: easyWire "I'm no fan of Wood but let's be honest comparing 2017 to the year before the Global Financial Crisis is a bit like saying the lost city of Atlantis is not as good as it was before the sea covered it up.
Wood has done some good and almost certainly kept things stable when necessary in hard times. Whether he is the right man to take us forward from here is another question. He's had his time and done his job, let's look forward.
Kind of reminds me of another situation involving a man in charge... can we start such a petition as well?'"
Club call
Top 6 -> Top 8 -> Top 4
Dubai
Salary Cap Stasis
Decline of Sport England money
Stobart
Decline of player participation
Are not due to the Global Economic crisis of 2008.
Anyone can start a petition on www.change.org. | |
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Quite damming stats. My issue with him is his (RFL) unwillingness to listen to external ideas or respond to emails.
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The decline of player participation is the massive problem that needs addressing by the RFL.
I looked at some data from Sport England for 2016 - RL is ranked 27th for participation. It's down 39% over 10 years, and down 9% vs 2015.
Here are the sports that are ahead of us for participation (some I'd regard as pastimes, but the point still stands):
Sailing, Shooting, Gymnastics, Rowing, Weightlifting, Hockey, Skiing, Angling, Table tennis, Mountaineering, Basketball, Cricket, Boxing, Netball, Rugby Union, Squash, Bowls, Equestrian, Tennis, Badminton, Exercise movement & dance, Golf, Football, Cycling, Athletics, Swimming.
The next 5 sports behind us on the list are all growing in participation. We're sliding backwards and it's not going to stop anytime soon.
This is particularly pertinent when considering some of the other threads at the moment discussing the quality of Superleague, and the perceived overall drop in the quality.
Most things in the list are linked in a symbiotic relationship.
Watching a sport and being inspired to play it (see the Olympics) is a massive part of getting people to play at grass roots. The more people that play a sport, the more funding available, the greater the talent pool, the better the overall quality of the players in the professional tiers (over time), etc etc...
Sports die when people stop playing them.
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Not a fan of online petitions. Much too easy for those who just love to knock without knowing much.
It doesn't even give an option to say ... I think he's done a wonderful job. The huge Nigel Wood Fan Club are bound to respond to this.
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| Team sports at grass roots level need a lot of organising, dotted I's and crossed T's just to get on the field. Help is required through volunteers. In today's society this is increasing more difficult as less people are willing to put themselves through this pain. Add to this the costs to operate and we can see that grass roots in all sports is suffering. Those sports with less participating individuals will inevitably sound the death knell for their professional counterparts.
In this modern age how many young people are rushing to damage their bodies in order to compete in a sport, I guess many less than there were when I was a young free spirit.
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When you look at the list of sports that are receiving participation money from the sports council you see that most of them are Olympic orientated. All things to do with shamateur athletics & gold medal possibilities are what interests the likes of the people on the sports council & their advisers & lobbyists so it might account for why & where the money is spent.
As for our place in the list, i suppose that could be accounted for by the greater choice of sport on offer in 2017 to the man in the street. Many of those sports were not of interest or not available to the working man 30 or 40 years ago ,but how many working class men are into golf these days instead of standing on draughty terraces watching a group of blokes running about ? The main appeal for many sports now has been hijacked by sky sports with 24 hour sport available world wide.
As for exposure ,it isn't just RL that has lost a lot of exposure due to sky pay to view....you only have to look at cricket ,most football, darts & kabbadi which you need sky sports to view ,to such an extent that women's football is now the darling of the BBC...& ,of course, not forgetting athletics.
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I am still surprised that the RFL / Super League have allowed, without challenge, the premier Women's football league to be called "Superleague".
The meteoric growth of Women's football in terms of coverage and awareness in the last year is quite staggering.
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Notwithstanding the reduction in sports funding, the debacle that was the Stobart advertising and the Mushy Peas brand association should be enough for his position to be questioned. Instead he gets a pay rise. Why? What other organisation is going to poach him?
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| Quote: Wires71 "Notwithstanding the reduction in sports funding, the debacle that was the Stobart advertising and the Mushy Peas brand association should be enough for his position to be questioned. Instead he gets a pay rise. Why? What other organisation is going to poach him?'"
A lot of the things being complained about isn't just down to him, the Superleague clubs voted for a lot of these things including structure changes, licencing changes, salary cap stagnation, club call, Stobart Sponsorship, Super 8's, new TV deal etc etc. I think Draper will now be in charge of landing sponsorship deals for Super League going forward as well?
I think it probably is time for a change at the top, but the witch hunt that seems to follow Wood about (that's not aimed at you Wires71) seems a bit OTT to me.
Its a big 5 years coming up for the sport in this country, two world cups, a new UK TV deal coming in just after the 2021 world cup on home shores and an increasing French and North American presence in the British game. The sport needs a clear roadmap in place to decide where it wants to go with this - and it needs a strong person at the helm. If a change is needed, now's the time to make it. |
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| Quote: Wires71 "I am still surprised that the RFL / Super League have allowed, without challenge, the premier Women's football league to be called "Superleague".
The meteoric growth of Women's football in terms of coverage and awareness in the last year is quite staggering.'"
Those trademark papers are probably still in the to-do pile at Red Hall from 20+ years ago. |
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In response to Smiffy27. Online petition not that different to this forum then?? I didn't know there was a Nigel Wood fan club.
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| Quote: Wires71 "I am still surprised that the RFL / Super League have allowed, without challenge, the premier Women's football league to be called "Superleague".
The meteoric growth of Women's football in terms of coverage and awareness in the last year is quite staggering.'"
A much more serious error was not registering 'Rugby World Cup' when RL started such a comp in the 1950s(?). |
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