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| Following on from the Bulls debacle and mismanagement, Rugby Leaguer suggests Warrington are running substantial losses which are being ''covered'' by Simon Moran.
I don't understand - I thought we were in good financial health.
We have a large turnover so the £1.65M salary cap is far less than 50%.
I know Moran has pumped cash in at various times through his companies ( in the early years) but I can't believe that - being a very astute businessman - he'd let that situation continue for long.
Can anyone clarify?
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| I should imagine the vast majority of professional sporting clubs in this country are running at a loss. Some are lucky to have a sugar-daddy, God knows how others keep going, especially in lower leagues on the crowds they get.
Maybe it is time that a big name club went to the wall..Glasgow Rangers, Bradford Bulls ( Hope not), just to show other clubs how not to be financially run.
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| Wigan fans will smell this thread like a juicy steak and kidney pie.
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| With the truth being available to anybody willing to spend £1.50 on each year's accounts you'd hope that journalists would be willing to do a little bit of research to discover the truth.
However having to spend £6 or so would probably wipe our Rugby Leaguer's research budget for the year.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "With the truth being available to anybody willing to spend £1.50 on each year's accounts you'd hope that journalists would be willing to do a little bit of research to discover the truth.
However having to spend £6 or so would probably wipe our Rugby Leaguer's research budget for the year.'"
Peter Hood shouldn't be allowed to spread malicious false gossip about how other clubs run their businesses. Just because he's made (and is continuing to make) and a mess at Bradford, doesn't mean everyone is. As you say the accounts clearly state any director's cash inputs and the idea that we need constant propping up with millions of pounds is ridiculous. We've even made a profit some years recently!
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| Published accounts never give an accurate view of a businesses financial status.
Only the board will know the true picture, no point speculating.
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| Yup. Apparently Bradfords accounts showed them in the black due to fixed assets etc, the problem is they haven't actually got any cash to pay players or creditors. Only the Bradford board knew how far up creek they were, and they conveniently waited until they had the licence renewal before they shed any light on this.
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| Hopefully the rugby league community will rally round us after reading this and fans from all clubs will contribute funds to help us out.
After all no matter what club you support RL is a great family and nobody wants to see another club go to the wall.
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| If he took the time to visit
Not if they take a look at Wigan Rugby League Club Limited.
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50086_1357229109.jpg [b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag.
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| So basically we can't trust published accounts anymore? I appreciate theyll always be dodgy punters but to suggest theyre often lies? FCUK me. I've heard some crap on these boards.
As for Hood, like SEB said. He's the last person to get on his high horse. I'd sooner take financial advice from Brewster.
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| Quote: Ian 77 Redux "So basically we can't trust published accounts anymore? I appreciate theyll always be dodgy punters but to suggest theyre often lies? French Connection UK me. I've heard some crap on these boards.
As for Hood, like SEB said. He's the last person to get on his high horse. I'd sooner take financial advice from Brewster.'"
It's not that published accounts are lies but it's easy for a company's accounts to disguise its underlying financial problems.
Portsmouth FC, Glasgow Rangers and all the major banks that went bust were publishing their accounts every year but still it took everyone by surprise when they got into trouble, but that trouble had been brewing for a long time.
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| Didn't we self-fund the extension? We truly mustn't have a pot to in.
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| Quote: Ian 77 Redux "So basically we can't trust published accounts anymore? I appreciate theyll always be dodgy punters but to suggest theyre often lies? French Connection UK me. I've heard some crap on these boards.
As for Hood, like SEB said. He's the last person to get on his high horse. I'd sooner take financial advice from Brewster.'"
Published accounts are never lies, merely one interpretation of the truth.
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| People aren't actually taking this seriously are they? There is absolutely no correlation between Warrington and the state that Bradford are in. As I mentioned its not a case of 'lies', just that Bradford have assets which made their books balance, the problem is they have no actual cash. ie if you own a 100k house bought and paid for that doesn't mean you can go and buy 100k worth of Greggs meat and potato, you would have to sell the assets before you had the actual cash for the sweet sweet pies.
The only time Warrington would ever have to worry is if Moran walked away, ala Ambramovich at Chelsea.
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