Lazy buggers spoiling it for people that need it? or is a cut needed for people to go back to work,

What work?

Bit of a daft question.

I've been employed none stop since 18 years old (before that I worked in the likes of McDonalds part time...) so If I become unemployed I feel I should have a safety net. On the flip side, of course there are people who abuse the system and take advantage.

What does worry me is that this is the kind of talk the Tories love to hear, labelling people as scroungers takes the focus off why people are unemployed etc.

Iain Duncan Smith's "get on a bus" comments made me wretch.

Problem with most of the long-term unemployed is they are unemployable, they have no skills and are basically delinquents who will make a company less productive rather than more productive because they just need constant supervision to make sure they haven't got their hands in the till.

You generally find that the people who complain that the work shy dossers should be starved into jobs, are the same type of people who tell you about how hard they work in the private sector and how public sector workers wouldn't last five minutes if they had to work in a competitive cuthroat business environment like them. They would never in a million years hire the work shy dossers to work in their firms, yet they seem to think that the private sector is awaiting them with open arms if only they had the motivation of no benefits, to accept the jobs on offer...

yep few of me mates on jsa and i admit that people do abuse and don't actually look for work and just want £100 every two weeks, but there are people out there who are unemplaoyed as there ain't no jobs out their and need that money for food/rent etc. so it should really put more pressure on people on their to show that they are actually looking for work and not just scrounging of the government

In one.

Thats probably a pretty apt statement. The problem with the welfare state is that it actively encourages teenage girls who dont do well at school to get pregnant. They can have 3 kids by age 20 with child allowance, Dole, housing benefits etc etc they can be on a tidy sum whilst living rent free and wearing the latest designer gear. Now i hate this government with a passion and would love nothing more than to knock 7 bells out of Osbourne, but the welfare system does need reshaping to discourage the attitude of some people who leave school with no intention of working. Unfortunatly Osbourne hasnt done this, all he has done is cripple the low income families and kick the rest of us in the bolloks for good measure. Disabled people have actually taken a hell of a kicking from a govt that is finally showing all the naive fools who voted for them their true colours. I have an autistic son who also has complex learning difficulties and am wondering now what the future holds for him.

The children of Thatcher's children.

Maybe the banks can help by giving us workers some of our money back instead of blaming everything on our fellow working class people.

Strange topic to have on this forum. WOnder if it will end up descending into a glorified MSN chat like all the others have.

12.m.uk. u bbz?

looks like I must be in a minority of agreeing with the chancellor. About time someone stood up and said it as it is. fact is far too many people are employed doing public sector jobs than are needed.

I'd go further.
1/ Make it compulsory for people to pass a test before having children, ie, the the intelligence and self-funding means to do so. quite simply have a 5 year birth control implant.
2/ any woman with a tattoo, or a male who thinks wearing a tracksuit tucked into his socks, or wears a baseball cap (obviously lacks intelligence), shall be automatically steralised.
3/ Sack the long-term sick ( mainly white-collar workers who earn an annual salary.)
4/ Remove every teaching assistant out of schools and bring back discipline. ie birch, cane etc.
5/ Remove all these plastic bobbies, absolute waste of time.
6/ Anybody who cannot speak English shall be deported.
7/ Cut the number of MPs by 50%. You do not need 2 MPs in 1 town.
8/ Heavily tax the banks' profits, seeing as though I own a few of them now, Im quite happy about this.
9/ Remove every quango and health and safety authority, and get back to using common sense.
10/ Abolish JSA. Being paid for not working. Never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life!!

some of the lazy buggers out there have no intention of working and are more than happy to receive handouts...take it off them..i know several who are in this position..as i heard 2 mums talking at school about the payments for there kiddies dinner money,one said if you was working you`d have to pay 40 pound a month for the dinners,pathetic,imagine if we all adopted that attitude...

Maybe we should start by cutting the £10bn of foreign aid we dish out every year.