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Not wishing to be confusing, it really about who has made the most of their career? Now this maybe someone who has achieved a huge amount and been fairly talented, or someone who has had an OK career but basically talentless.

It's not about being critical, this is the inverse of those who have had huge talent but done very little with it.

I'll start...................Paul Wellens.

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Gareth Hock. Wasted talent

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Quote: Warrington Wolf "Gareth Hock. Wasted talent'"


But here's got talent and wasted it, you need to turn it on its head.

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I think that Paul Cullen was a fairly ordinary player who by sheer effort and dedication made himself into a very good all round centre/second row. He also battled against a very serious knee injury.
The player at Wolves who made the least of a load of talent has to be Jon Roper, had everything, did very little with it.

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Keith Senior. Not exactly a skilful player, doesn't have great balance or great offload, but has certainly made the best of being a powerful runner.

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These are the guys who apply themselves and make the most of what they've got. Train hard and have good lengthy careers, the sort that you need in the team.

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What about Ellery Hanley? He didn't have much of a kicking or passing game....?

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This a monumentally daft thread even for here. To even get to the point of having a career in the sport the player must have consistently exhibited exceptional talent through game after game in junior, youth and academy grade rugby.

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