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Just thought it worth seeing if anyone knows the reason he is not living upto our expectations?

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Quote: TheDoc "Just thought it worth seeing if anyone knows the reason he is not living upto our expectations?'"


Because he is playing mostly out of position at Warrington, he has poor players around him, he doesn't seem to like it in this country and probably isn't used to the Warrington teams way of life.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Because he is playing mostly out of position at Warrington, he has poor players around him, he doesn't seem to like it in this country and probably isn't used to the Warrington teams way of life.'"


I reckon it could be a combination of all of these things.

Paul Cullen / James Lowes are not in the same universe, never mind the same league as Craig Bellamy.

Warrington is a good place to live, but can hardly compare to Melbourne. Can he cope with the transition from cafe culture to Bridge Street binge drinking.

Although we signed him as a centre, his best position is definately on the wing, but with the money he's on this seems a bit of a waste.

Remember this is the man that scored a hat-trick in the State of Origin decider 3 years ago, and won NSW player of the series while also earning a call up to one of the worlds great sporting sides.

Ultimately, while these changes may have taken some getting used to, at the end of the day he made the decision to come over to these shores. We the fans were under the impression that we were getting a world class three-quarter who could help us to long overdue success, yet what we have seen so far is anything but.

While King may have once been lauded as one of the worlds top backs, remember less than 6 years ago he almost quit the game after failing to earn a pro contract and worked as a binman. WBC are always on the lookout for strong, hard-working men. At the moment even they would refuse to take him on.

I have faith that with a new man in charge we could see a rejuvinated player, with the potential to become the second SL based player to earn a State of Origin call-up. But he could just as easily be back on the bins or pulling pints in the Railway.

Matt the choice is yours.

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Quote: FireWire "Warrington is a good place to live, but can hardly compare to Melbourne. Can he cope with the transition from cafe culture to Bridge Street binge drinking.
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He lives in Salford Quays.

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He's not as good as we thought he was.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""He's not as good as we thought he was.'"


Disagree with this, he was World class for Melbourne and you don't become a bad player overnight.

He's not performed as well as we thought he would have done is surely want you meant to say.

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King is a top player even though we haven't seen it. But let's be honest, if Andrew Johns can look average when he pulls on a wire shirt did we expect king to be any different?

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Quote: Ian [77] ""He's not as good as we thought he was.'"


Unfortunately I think thats right, because he was a Kangaroo international and played Origin I think we thought we were getting someone like Hodges, Gasnier or Inglis, and we weren't.

About this time last year I was in a bar in Pretoria, I got chatting to an Aussie bloke from Townsville and the conversation turned to league. I said I was a Warrington fan and was excited at the signings of Monaghan and King, this fella rated Monaghan but straight from the off he was negative about King. He reckoned King and Tate were weak links in the Aussie defence, both had a tendency to be caught out of position and the Kiwis had exploited this especially in 2005. He also said that where Gasnier, Inglis and Hodges were freakishly talented athletes, King was pretty much a straight up and down player with a strong physique who would run in tries on the back of a dominant Melbourne side and had got himself in the representative reckoning because of that. I argued that you don't get to play for NSW or Australia without being a good player, his response was that might be true but he was unlikely to get rep calls again so he'd cashed in on a good deal in Super League at a time when his reputation was at its peak.

I didn't think too much of this at the time because it was just the view of an Aussie fan, I think we were all excited about King coming to Wire, but with hindsight they were interesting comments.

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We dont use him right at all. At storm he was given the ball (as a wing man where he played) about 10 metres from the line and he crashed over the winger.

At the moment we ship the ball out so slow that my gran could do a good job at a covering defence against us.

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It was a bit pointless him turning up on friday as we never seemed to get the ball to him.

There are some concerning aspects of his defensive positioning but the whole team seems a bit suspect at this!

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I agree with Sally - that's pretty much what I'd heard too. We were all expecting a Gasnier and ended up with Reg rather than Mark.

Basically at the Storm he was used as a battering ram close to the line or by outjumping his opposite number off a high ball.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but to be honest he is an absolute donkey. I was watching the Saints match on holiday in the pub with no sound on and assumed he must have been injured as he was so slow and scrabbling around in the mud - to be honest I felt for him as it was just embarrassing to watch Gidley turn him inside out.

Hopefully Moran will bump into Inglis' agent at Lords and we might actually sign someone in there prime.

I still have hope for Monas.

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Quote: JJJ "We dont use him right at all. At storm he was given the ball (as a wing man where he played) about 10 metres from the line and he crashed over the winger.

At the moment we ship the ball out so slow that my gran could do a good job at a covering defence against us.'"


JJJ, he didn't play winger at Melbourne. Steve Turner was his winger, King played virtually all his games at centre. His NSW and Australia games were pretty much all on the wing.

I think it is far too easy to say he isn't good enough, isn't it more of a case of not utilising him correctly.

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Poor Service, simple as!

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Quote: ChiswickWire "I agree with Sally - that's pretty much what I'd heard too. We were all expecting a Gasnier and ended up with Reg rather than Mark.'"


Speak for yourself, some of us pointed out what we were getting even before he had made his debut.

Mat King played in an excellent Melbourne side where he didn`t need to be a creative centre, the Storm had Inglis and Slater joining the line out wide to do the creating and making the overlap where more often than not it would just leave Matt King with a run in.

When he played rep RL for NSW and the Kangaroos it suited their system to have a big strong finisher out wide that could use his size to barge over from short range along with using his height to get on the end of kicks and generally finishing off moves, the Australian test team and NSW have always had an abundance of creative players in the backline which would compliment Kings size out wide.

His defence has always been poor which is another one of the reasons why he was out on the wing at rep level, he charges out of the line too much looking for the big hit and more often than not he will miss and leave his winger totally exposed with an overlap, he also likes to go walk about but when your surrounded by some of the worlds best players you can get away with that in the NRL and at rep level but you can`t get away with it when you have some inexperienced players around you along with some average ones like he`s got here.

At Warrington he is an average player in an average side, i would have Michael Shenton over Matt King any day of the week.

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