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| Can anyone explain the difference between the no try awarded against Clark tonight and the try awarded to Roby against Wire at the HJ earlier this season?
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| Yes Roby knocked on and Clark had the ball slapped out. Two of penny's were fine along with Clark's, atkins knocked on. Video refs need to go.
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| Yep, as above Roby knocked on, or at least unintentionally had it dislodged in the tackle because as we all know, a leg cannot strip a ball, a hand can though, like tonight.
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| could and possibly should have been 50 points tonight.... some ridiculous decisions.
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| Quote: agarisarugbygenius "Can anyone explain the difference between the no try awarded against Clark tonight and the try awarded to Roby against Wire at the HJ earlier this season?'"
ones a golden boy who can do no wrong and is the best thing to play in super league and the other one plays for the wire...but your spot on with what you say...
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| Have we upset the video ref union somehow as I don't think it's wire bias to think we've been really hard done to in the last couple of months with video decisions...really hard.
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| We've had some shocking decision this season from video refs and tonight's was the worst of the lot!
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| Had some tough calls just against Saints this year by the video ref. The Roby on as mentioned, and the Harrison 'pass off the ground' at Magic, which a similar incident in the semi final was judged differently.
I don't believe that he officials are biased, just wholly incompetent. The 'interpretation' of rules is too wide a scope to enforce effectively.
Overhaul the process, refs give a decision, and the captains get a review per game to challenge it. Keeps the game rolling too
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| They don't apply any common sense or logic at times as when players are chasing a bouncing rugby ball, hands and arms are all over the place, in the case of Atkins the ball bounced and changed direction in favour of Atkins with the defender continuing in a forward motion, his extended arm looked more like a natural balancing act, okay his fingers/palm just touched the defender but in a contact sport to me that was not a push but I'm not a video ref.
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| Who was the video ref....
Billy Thompson?
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "Had some tough calls just against Saints this year by the video ref. The Roby on as mentioned, and the Harrison 'pass off the ground' at Magic, which a similar incident in the semi final was judged differently. '"
The Roby one at the HJ was given due to the ball coming out because of foul play. You are not allowed to attack the ball carrier with your legs to prevent a try. Whether you agree with that or not, that's what they ruled. If they had decided he dropped it, it would have been given as a penalty try. They mentioned this on the commentary at the time, the video ref was never looking for no try, just whether it was try, penalty try or 8 point try. I'd have given penalty try to make it clear.
The Harrison pass off the ground was another correct decision, like all those last night were. You can ignore that because it led to a beautiful outcome. That was another example of the match officials seeing what happened and letting it go upstairs just in case they were wrong.
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| After the fourth dis-allowed try (I think). Phil Clark said 'how unlucky have the Wolves been this year'. For him to come out with that, when he hates us, says a hell of a lot if you ask me!
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| Quote: Saddened! "The Roby one at the HJ was given due to the ball coming out because of foul play. You are not allowed to attack the ball carrier with your legs to prevent a try. Whether you agree with that or not, that's what they ruled. If they had decided he dropped it, it would have been given as a penalty try. They mentioned this on the commentary at the time, the video ref was never looking for no try, just whether it was try, penalty try or 8 point try. I'd have given penalty try to make it clear.
The Harrison pass off the ground was another correct decision, like all those last night were. You can ignore that because it led to a beautiful outcome. That was another example of the match officials seeing what happened and letting it go upstairs just in case they were wrong.'"
You're also not allowed to play at the ball when more than one defender is in contact, so to deem a 'loose carry' when a ball ejects after interference from a defender seems a bit of rough justice. The problem being, 2 very marginal infringements (one where a leg struck the ball, and one a hand, both unintentionally) that dislodged the ball, were ruled differently.
And the point I made around the Harrison one, was not that it was the right/wrong decision, but it lacked consistency with other instances, when Lunt on the CC semi and Ablett against Cas iirc were both given as tries after consulting the video.
I don't care if they are not given, as long as they are all not given. It has to be consistent
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| Surely even the RFL can see video decision are beyond a joke and are doing damage to our game ,, it is boring and it is widening the gap between televised and non televised games , overrule clear mistakes and stop all this super slow mo and super zoom , Sky should also not use them to undermine refs decision
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| Robys ball wasn't dislodged by a leg he knocked it on into a leg and then regathered therefore it shouldn't have stood.
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