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Is it just me or has the ref suddenly begun to penalise Wire for holding down when he's ignored most of Saints holding down? It seemed to start when Saints were 22 points down. Just a thought.

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The start of the second half has just emphasised my point. Every time a saints player appeals for a holding down decision, they get it. No wonder I didn't renew my season ticket this year. The game is a farce if the ref can influence the result so much.

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Silverwood was a disgrace. Levelled the game up and refereed both sides differently. He certainly stood by the rfl mandate of keeping games close/closer. I knew the 2nd half was going to be bad when he started by giving a non-existent knock on!

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



According to Sky TS was unhappy with Silverwoods refereeing of the ruck in the first half. I reckon he told the guys to put more effort into slowing down and disrupting the play the ball in the second half but we simply weren't as good at disguising it as Saints.

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Quote: Thelonius "According to Sky TS was unhappy with Silverwoods refereeing of the ruck in the first half. I reckon he told the guys to put more effort into slowing down and disrupting the play the ball in the second half but we simply weren't as good at disguising it as Saints.'"


i heard that as well..bet sir tony was fuming with this idiot at full time...would love to see the penalty count..

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Quote: Thelonius "According to Sky TS was unhappy with Silverwoods refereeing of the ruck in the first half. I reckon he told the guys to put more effort into slowing down and disrupting the play the ball in the second half but we simply weren't as good at disguising it as Saints.'"


Nobody was disguising it - he was just treating the two teams differently

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Saints were pretty good at disguising high tackles as well then, because that's another offence apparently only Warrington were committing.

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i hate pointing the finger at the ref, but tonight silverwood was a disgrace... he tried to get saints back into the game at every opportunity... he was giving them penalties for almost nothing..... he doesnt have a great record in wire v saints games.... but tonight he was awful

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I watched on the box and we were on fire for the first 25mins.
I didn't notice what changed but we then certainly stopped making the metres in the centre and it became a real tussle.
In all honesty I didn't pick up on the lying on or pen count and didn't realy notice Silverwood reffing the sides differently.
Maybe what you guys saw was the real reason but I didn't really see it at the time.

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One of the key events, not for the first time, was the departure of Mickey Higham from the pitch - with him went a lot of our impetus and we got dragged into a niggly, messy PTB and gave Silverwood the opportunity to hammer us, which he seized with gusto.

The swing in fortunes in the second half coincided with Mickeys return, and I also thought Ben Harrison's return put a lot of momentum back into our game.

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[color=#FFFF00:1d72a5qw]♫[/color:1d72a5qw][color=#0000FF:1d72a5qw]♫[/color:1d72a5qw] [b:1d72a5qw]Come on Wire, [size=80:1d72a5qw]come on Wire,[/size:1d72a5qw] [size=60:1d72a5qw]come on Wire,[/size:1d72a5qw] [size=40:1d72a5qw]Come on...[/size:1d72a5qw][/b:1d72a5qw] [color=#0000FF:1d72a5qw]♫[/color:1d72a5qw][color=#FFFF00:1d72a5qw]♫[/color:1d72a5qw] [quote="WidnesJohn":1d72a5qw] With us being the better side these days, we are licking our lips at inflicting more misery on Wire in the coming derby. I expect a fairly straight forward win.[/quote:1d72a5qw][b:1d72a5qw]Wire 44 - 6 Widnes[/b:1d72a5qw] Widnes Score Time: 74 Minutes 9 Seconds:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62369.jpg



TS said pretty much the above in the post-game interview, but disguised it as constructive criticism of overall inconsistencies in the league.

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How about his failure to punish Warrington for being consistently offside at almost every play the ball?

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Quote: JonB95 "How about his failure to punish Warrington for being consistently offside at almost every play the ball?'"



Wow there are some bad losers. You got beat end of.

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Quote: JonB95 "How about his failure to punish Warrington for being consistently offside at almost every play the ball?'"


How about his willingness to penalise Warrington every time a Saints player threw themselves around on the floor at the PTB like a premiership footballer who's just dislocated an eyelash?

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I was genuinely aghast at the refereeing. Disgraceful.

This cannot carry on.

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