I am not whining or complaining because we have had a fantastic season, but it just doesn't seem right that the two best teams in the competition who finished 1 & 2 don't make the showcase Final.

Should go back to 1 v 2 winner goes into the Final again.

But we all know the system its crap but we have to play it

I understand what your saying but at least its unpredictable! Which is what i want to see

Its noticeable that the intensity, passion and refereeing have been so much better this last 48hrs. Hopefully the RL will learn from this. Oh, and thank you Saints for rescuing the weekend for me.

The league leaders, should be Champions.....I've said this for years
It's ridiculous that Leeds (no offence, Loiners) can finish a distance behind us, but still be classed as 'champions', should they win next week.
Yes, we're quick to take Sky's money, BUT, this play-off business (especially this season), has proved that the 'title' is, well, interestingly named.

When we won the Premiership in 86, against a tired Halifax side, we finished a mile behind them in the League.
Yet, in today's parlance, we were Champions that year, because that's all the Premiership was, an end of season play-off.....not the 'be all and end all' which Sky drum into us, every week.

I thought from the headline this was about Warringtons sallery cap avoidance .

Saints in a 6th grand final on the bounce and playing Leeds is hardly unpredictable

You'd have got awesome odds three weeks ago on saying they'd both be in the final though.

if you would have won you wouldn't be complaining

It's completely right. Neither Wigan nor Warrington had it in them this year. They didn't have that extra bit that makes you a champion.

It's easy to sail when the wind is at your back, you've got no injuries and you put 60 on teams. But if you can't win in the playoffs it's irrelevant.

If it were not for Saints and Leeds' injuries at the start of the season, and the disruption we had internally, I doubt the league would have been a two horse race as it was. But it's a marathon not a sprint. What has happened this season is like two athletes sprinting the marathon, then reaching the last 100m and collapsing.

The playoffs can bring injustices at times, such as 2005(?) when Saints lost half their squad, but this year the two at the top haven't had any excuses.

I have always said that whoever finishes top should be champions & known as such . Sky could still have a top 8 playoff for a seperate trophy if they want to extend the season but one problem i have is that the whole playoffs are hurried through obviously to fit in with Sky winter schedules starting. The RFL should demand changes to this cramped playoff schedule to accommodate the clubs & players better maybe to finish at the end of October.

Partly true, but under the play off system Leeds (again no disrespect to them) who finished 4 places behind us and won 7 games less than us may well finish Champions.

I posted last year when Wigan lost at home to Leeds in their 1st Play Off game that the team that wins the league should be deemed Champions. I am not saying get rid of the 'play Off ' games because last night was thrilling, but change the emphasis so that HKR who have finished a poor 8th would not have been called Champions of Super League 2011 if they had reached and won at O/T.

To put this into perspective try and explain to a friend who watches Soccer but not RL that last season Fulham who finished 8th in the Premiership could at the end of the season play 4 games win them all and be called Champions in front of Manchester United who were top and had 31 points more than Fulham. Go on try it.

So its an injustice when Saints didn't win in 2005 (?) but correct when Warrington / Wigan don't in 2011.
Are you saying it was wrong when Saints won the League Title but not the G/F. But right when Warrington won the League Title but not the G/F.

You have just contradicted yourself.

Why do we have to justify it to football fans? How many sports worldwide actually have first past the post these days?

Of the biggest sports in the world, only football has it. Rugby league, union, basketball, baseball, American Football etc all have playoffs. You don't see people asking that question about the Superbowl do you? Or the NBA finals series?

It is what it is and all the teams knew about it through the season. It is noticable that the two sides in the final are probably the two that have fielded the most players this season. Both Wigan and Warrington declined the opportunity to rest players at key stages of the season and it cost them when it mattered. Wigan in particular hardly ever rested anyone, I'll bet they've fielded very few academy players this season.

It was an injustice because Saints lost a lot of key players for the play offs through injury. Like if Warrington had lost Hodgson, Briers, Morley and Monaghan before the playoffs.