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Quote: TF and the wire "Who was it that he had a spat with in his column and they responded with comments about his weight?'"

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Quote: karetaker "It’s why he was called controversial, he knew the sport on the field was/his becoming garbage to watch but got called out for saying so. Wonder who in the press will pick that baton up.'"


Whilst I wish him well and agree that he was a star turn on the pitch and share some of his concerns about RL as a 'product' there is an inherent problem with being controversial.

Too much of it and you lose the impact of your messaging...."oh it's only so and so sounding off again" and this is before the subversive agents of cancel culture step in.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Whilst I wish him well and agree that he was a star turn on the pitch and share some of his concerns about RL as a 'product' there is an inherent problem with being controversial.

Too much of it and you lose the impact of your messaging...."oh it's only so and so sounding off again" and this is before the subversive agents of cancel culture step in.'"


Fair comment but at what point do you stop speaking your mind and why is it classed as controversial. 2 guys in the pub speaking about sport are not controversial because nobody knows them.

I have never understood why a coach or an ex-player or anyone in the media can not say how they feel without it being classed as controversial. Expect someone will educate me.

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Quote: karetaker "Wonder who in the press will pick that baton up.'"


Don't expect any one on the Sky / BBC set up to raise their head above the parapet. It's all "amazing" remember.

We will have to rely on falling TV viewers, TV deals, and live attendances.

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Quote: karetaker "Fair comment but at what point do you stop speaking your mind and why is it classed as controversial. 2 guys in the pub speaking about sport are not controversial because nobody knows them.

I have never understood why a coach or an ex-player or anyone in the media can not say how they feel without it being classed as controversial. Expect someone will educate me.'"


Opinions are great and I don't think anyone should stop speaking their mind, but I would offer that two guys in a pub aren't controversial, not because "nobody knows them" but because they have a limited audience.

As soon as you have one (an audience) which doesn't seem that difficult in 'this day an age' with more platforms than a night at a 1970's disco, then you might want to consider what you say, a case of 'know your audience'?

Or maybe not, you'll get a critique no matter what, but sometimes if your best known for being controversial for the sake of it 'just' to stir things up, then some of the good stuff will inevitably get lost as people dismiss or ridicule the content based on reputation alone.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Opinions are great and I don't think anyone should stop speaking their mind, but I would offer that two guys in a pub aren't controversial, not because "nobody knows them" but because they have a limited audience.

As soon as you have one (an audience) which doesn't seem that difficult in 'this day an age' with more platforms than a night at a 1970's disco, then you might want to consider what you say, a case of 'know your audience'?

Or maybe not, you'll get a critique no matter what, but sometimes if your best known for being controversial for the sake of it 'just' to stir things up, then some of the good stuff will inevitably get lost as people dismiss or ridicule the content based on reputation alone.'"



Again all good points. But you are Disco Stu icon_lol.gif

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