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Wigan were, and are, just better than us currently. I guess Sam couldn't say that at the time. But no disgrace - we are currently (probably) the 3rd best team in SL which is a remarkable turnaround from 20th August 2023 when we were 8 losses on the bounce and at our lowest ebb in recent memory.'"

Agreed. Perspective is needed in the fact that Wigan are 3 years into it with Peet. Burgess has been here one season and we were a penalty kick away from beating Wigan at the HJ which would have resulted in us finishing 1st and winning the LLS. We made the CC final and we were a couple of missed conversions and a dodgy decision over reaching the Grand Final. Lets see where we are after 3 years as the improvements have already been mightily impressive.

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Quote: Wires71 "I didn't realise he was from Orford. He is only 21 and has a SL winners medal and 30 mins of a GF already. Lad has done well.'"

Yeah he was at Rylands for a decade before being snapped up by Wigan.

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Quote: Wires71 " You can see why we are a little non plussed with Leyland, Russell and Johnson for 2025. Time will tell.'"


I like the look of Leyland and wait to see how Russell & Johnson turn out. I reckon our coaching staff will have seen a bit more video etc. than all of us. I prefer to be positive. Lot's of times the new signings prove to be uneventful but sometimes you find a gem & often you don't. I bet when Dufty, Ratchford & Ashton were signed there would be one or two non-plussed. I did watch Tai last year (he'd signed but not arrived at Wire) & thought he won't play a game for Wire ... but wrong again. I won't judge Russell on two missed tackles. Everyone (who plays) misses tackles.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "I like the look of Leyland and wait to see how Russell & Johnson turn out. I reckon our coaching staff will have seen a bit more video etc. than all of us. I prefer to be positive. Lot's of times the new signings prove to be uneventful but sometimes you find a gem & often you don't. I bet when Dufty, Ratchford & Ashton were signed there would be one or two non-plussed. I did watch Tai last year (he'd signed but not arrived at Wire) & thought he won't play a game for Wire ... but wrong again. I won't judge Russell on two missed tackles. Everyone (who plays) misses tackles.'"


Yeah that's fair*.

*Ashton was Championship Player of the Year when we signed him so I think people were generally excited.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah that's fair*.

*Ashton was Championship Player of the Year when we signed him so I think people were generally excited.'"


Plus we already knew about Ratchford before he signed for us.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah that's fair*.

*Ashton was Championship Player of the Year when we signed him so I think people were generally excited.'"

Agree about Ashton, he was fast and scored a hatful. But there was always a lingering fear that he was very lightweight and could get found out like Kev Penny (who despite his limitations I really liked). Boy has he gone on to a completely different level and I rate him as best in SL this year.
But for every Ashton there are probably 4 Tee Ritsons

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