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Quote: rubber duckie "Thewlis over Miski clearly.
Marshall over Ashton just.
Williams over French. There is more to Williams complete game than that of French.'"


Thewlis over Miski this year is fair enough. He's been carrying a knee injury for a lot of this season though, and his 2023 form was outstanding. It remains to be seen if with a full off season he can properly recover and recapture that form, but if he can't I'd expect Eckersley to come in and take his place anyway.

I can 100% see why you'd say that about Williams. I'd still have French in front of him with my Wigan bias, but there's not much that you want from a half back that Williams can't do. Having Smith take responsibility for so much of the organisation gives us the luxury of having someone a bit more mercurial alongside him, whereas Williams probably doesn't really get that from Drinkwater as much as he should. What I'd say though is that French - for all he gets noticed for his individual attacking - has developed into a much more rounded player than I thought possible. When he was out for a couple of months we missed his right-edge defence as much as anything else.

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Quote: Wires71 "I didn't realise he was from Orford. He is only 21 and has a SL winners medal and 30 mins of a GF already. Lad has done well.'"

Yeah he was at Rylands for a decade before being snapped up by Wigan.

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Quote: Wires71 " You can see why we are a little non plussed with Leyland, Russell and Johnson for 2025. Time will tell.'"


I like the look of Leyland and wait to see how Russell & Johnson turn out. I reckon our coaching staff will have seen a bit more video etc. than all of us. I prefer to be positive. Lot's of times the new signings prove to be uneventful but sometimes you find a gem & often you don't. I bet when Dufty, Ratchford & Ashton were signed there would be one or two non-plussed. I did watch Tai last year (he'd signed but not arrived at Wire) & thought he won't play a game for Wire ... but wrong again. I won't judge Russell on two missed tackles. Everyone (who plays) misses tackles.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "I like the look of Leyland and wait to see how Russell & Johnson turn out. I reckon our coaching staff will have seen a bit more video etc. than all of us. I prefer to be positive. Lot's of times the new signings prove to be uneventful but sometimes you find a gem & often you don't. I bet when Dufty, Ratchford & Ashton were signed there would be one or two non-plussed. I did watch Tai last year (he'd signed but not arrived at Wire) & thought he won't play a game for Wire ... but wrong again. I won't judge Russell on two missed tackles. Everyone (who plays) misses tackles.'"


Yeah that's fair*.

*Ashton was Championship Player of the Year when we signed him so I think people were generally excited.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah that's fair*.

*Ashton was Championship Player of the Year when we signed him so I think people were generally excited.'"


Plus we already knew about Ratchford before he signed for us.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah that's fair*.

*Ashton was Championship Player of the Year when we signed him so I think people were generally excited.'"

Agree about Ashton, he was fast and scored a hatful. But there was always a lingering fear that he was very lightweight and could get found out like Kev Penny (who despite his limitations I really liked). Boy has he gone on to a completely different level and I rate him as best in SL this year.
But for every Ashton there are probably 4 Tee Ritsons

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