Same.

I admire and respect Wigan as a club and generally their fans are more balanced. You can pass the time of day with a Wigan fan.

Saints fans are generally spoilt individuals who complain if they don't get things 100% their way. They are arrogant and entitled. They crow on our board when they win and then never show their face when they lose. They are incapable of showing class when winning, or grace in defeat. (Wembley as an example).

Totally agree W71 with your Wigan assessment and also your thoughts on the Latter Day Saints, spot on not a lot of class to be had win or lose.

The passage of time and the vagaries of form tends to temper ones view, or it does mine as Widnes were that team for me, whilst Saints weren't really on my rivalry radar. Obviously, it's easier now to feel some compassion for the Chemics

I've no recollection exactly when Saints became the bores that they are currently, but I hope a win for us on Saturday is the start of a Widnesian softening...well I can dream

Being from Newton, Wigan were always the main enemy for me (although I loved going to Central Park). Widnes only entered my consciousness at Wembley! I didn’t know where Widnes was until I was well into my 20’s.
The dislike of Saints is really down to the total arrogance of their fans and their utter belief in their right to win (and ALL their players being world class).

Saints had a winning streak against us which lasted about 10 years. I wonder if they used to get nervous when they played us thinking "we can't beat them [inineteen[/i times in a row surely..."

Also didn't Saints have the name "the bottlers" on this forum for a while?

Nope, that would have been immature.

We called them the ‘Bocklers’.