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Quote: ratticusfinch "One of the clearest double movements you’ll ever see.'"

Firstly a caveat: I'm not arguing it was a try or that it wasn't a double movement. For clarity, my first instinct was always double movement and I called it as such while watching the game. However...

We often hear that a tackle is complete when the ball carrying arm hits the ground but this isn't true. A tackle isn't complete until momentum stops. No one would claim that the tackle was complete at the point the ball carrying arm hits the floor if the player then slides over the line. In the French example, the player is still moving at the point his arm hits the floor and is still moving when he starts to move his arm. Both allowable under the rules. At the point he grounds it he has stopped moving so it depends if you regard the arm movement as during 'live play' or not.

From the BBC website (couldn't find the RFL rule explanation):

However, if the player is in the process of being tackled and the ball has not been grounded before the try line, then they can make a second movement for the score.

I'm not making a judgement either way but it probably isn't as clear cut as it would seem if you apply the incorrect "tackle complete when the ball carrying arm hits the ground".

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Quote: RobRiches "I still can’t understand how that try wasn’t double movement? The tackle was complete. Ball carrying arm hit the deck?'"


If there is momentum then its irrelevant about the ball carrying arm hitting the deck.

That being said, I am 50/50 on whether I think it was double movement. Probably was because of the unnatural movement of his arm.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "
Quote: nathan_rugby "I still can’t understand how that try wasn’t double movement? The tackle was complete. Ball carrying arm hit the deck?'"


If there is momentum then its irrelevant about the ball carrying arm hitting the deck.

That being said, I am 50/50 on whether I think it was double movement. Probably was because of the unnatural movement of his arm.'"


The main problem in our game is sticking to a particular rule ,referees interpretations vary throughout the season ,any season, no wonder spectators are confused & accuse refs of being bent. I didn't see anything wrong with Dufty's ptb on Saturday & in the same game there was more than one "not playing the ball with foot " missed .

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Quote: ninearches "The main problem in our game is sticking to a particular rule ,referees interpretations vary throughout the season ,any season, no wonder spectators are confused & accuse refs of being bent. I didn't see anything wrong with Dufty's ptb on Saturday & in the same game there was more than one "not playing the ball with foot " missed .'"


Spot on. If you go back on the disciplinary thread, I'm sure it would contain many players charged with this and that, in the first month or so, then it tailing off quite dramatically. Some misdemeanours do have a period when refs and the committee clamp down on them and take a hard line, only to be lenient after a short time, in comparison, even though the rule breaking continues.

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "Spot on. If you go back on the disciplinary thread, I'm sure it would contain many players charged with this and that, in the first month or so, then it tailing off quite dramatically. Some misdemeanours do have a period when refs and the committee clamp down on them and take a hard line, only to be lenient after a short time, in comparison, even though the rule breaking continues.'"



well its funny you should say that, they say this stuff evens itself out over the season, that isn't case, as you've pointed out it DEFINITELY isn't the case with the various crackdowns this year, and its made slightly worse

Have you noted the bizarre fixture list this season? its almost like most of the big games between the bigger teams have been backloaded into the second half of the season. when cards/suspensions are much less likely to occur. and less negative attention and blame could be attributed to players being suspended and costing teams games.

its a bit tinfoil hat, but its suspicious...

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