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Quote: Winslade's Offload "The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.'"


I think it is a better side than the last few years but we were really bad. The side seems to have spirit and character but we were out muscled in the pack. We are something like 4th / 5th / 6th best side in the competition.

Marshall was appointed as defensive coach under Daryl Powell. (https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ri ... warrington). Whatever he is doing did not work yesterday. We did not look solid at all, look easily stripped for numbers and very vulnerably under a high ball.

Some players need to be on the tackle bags all week (Ashton for one, his attempt was shocking).
Quote: Winslade's Offload "The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.'"


I think it is a better side than the last few years but we were really bad. The side seems to have spirit and character but we were out muscled in the pack. We are something like 4th / 5th / 6th best side in the competition.

Marshall was appointed as defensive coach under Daryl Powell. (https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ri ... warrington). Whatever he is doing did not work yesterday. We did not look solid at all, look easily stripped for numbers and very vulnerably under a high ball.

Some players need to be on the tackle bags all week (Ashton for one, his attempt was shocking).


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Let's be realistic , how many times have we been caught napping by so-called lesser teams & found ourselves chasing the game? Proactive rugby instead of reactive is what we need.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah it's all just BS words for "we loved up again".'"

They have to say something and acknowledging publicly that there is work to do is no more than they expect. In fairness it was an horrific start where everything Catalans do d resulted in a score. Not a problem Burgess has seen before in this team and it needs to be worked on. Catalans are a top 3 team, we aim to be but aren’t there yet.

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Quote: Captain Hook "They have to say something and acknowledging publicly that there is work to do is no more than they expect. In fairness it was an horrific start where everything Catalans do d resulted in a score. Not a problem Burgess has seen before in this team and it needs to be worked on. Catalans are a top 3 team, we aim to be but aren’t there yet.'"


Yes I understand that. Catalan are a better side. We were slow out of the blocks first half, then second half shows our inability to remedy of slow start in the second half.

Slow starts are a theme with us. Did a core of the players not learn from ... https://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/ ... st-helens/

I don't think it's about lessons. I think it's about the squad not being good enough to compete with the top teams.
Quote: Captain Hook "They have to say something and acknowledging publicly that there is work to do is no more than they expect. In fairness it was an horrific start where everything Catalans do d resulted in a score. Not a problem Burgess has seen before in this team and it needs to be worked on. Catalans are a top 3 team, we aim to be but aren’t there yet.'"


Yes I understand that. Catalan are a better side. We were slow out of the blocks first half, then second half shows our inability to remedy of slow start in the second half.

Slow starts are a theme with us. Did a core of the players not learn from ... https://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/ ... st-helens/

I don't think it's about lessons. I think it's about the squad not being good enough to compete with the top teams.


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And I get that you won’t be satisfied till we win a GF (or 2) and hopefully that day will come. In the meantime i’m enjoying the rugby way more than I did last season…or the season before…

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Quote: Captain Hook "And I get that you won’t be satisfied till we win a GF (or 2) and hopefully that day will come. In the meantime i’m enjoying the rugby way more than I did last season…or the season before…'"


Yes me too. I have accepted we are not up there with the top 3 and won't be for at least a few seasons, if ever. The players do seem committed this season and we have scored some nice tries. I think thats a more healthy position for me than swallowing this "lessons" stuff and expecting a difference.

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