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Quote: Winslade's Offload "The quick loss of 3 early tries was really poor with Vaughan of all people responsible for much of the self inflicted damage. However perhaps I am in a small minority in thinking this is a much better side than we have had for a couple of years ? The side never gave up, and the level of effort was very high. The one worrying area is defence with lots of very poor mistakes. In contrast our attack is improving quickly; we don't look like headless chickens anymore when we get close to the opposition line. We are certainly short of some weight and quality in the pack, but Burgess will already know this and will be waiting for an opportunity to bring someone in.

On this showing Im encouraged with what Burgess has managed to achieve but it's still very much a work in progress. We have one specialist attack coach but I think I would bring in someone to sort out the defence. Catalan looked much better organised than us in this respect.'"


My thoughts exactly. We look like a side that will eventually be competitive in all games, and we didn't panic despite being poor in the opening 10 minutes and stuck to the processes. We seem like a side who can slot people in and out without it disrupting us too much.

We definitely look underweight and need more go-forward, as we got steamrollered all match. We need to sort that defence out too. My only criticism of Burgess is that he dropped Wrench too soon, as Tai looked like a schoolboy trying to tackle in the first half. I think Wrench would be far more creative too with better hands, at this stage of the season anyway.

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Let's be realistic , how many times have we been caught napping by so-called lesser teams & found ourselves chasing the game? Proactive rugby instead of reactive is what we need.

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah it's all just BS words for "we loved up again".'"

They have to say something and acknowledging publicly that there is work to do is no more than they expect. In fairness it was an horrific start where everything Catalans do d resulted in a score. Not a problem Burgess has seen before in this team and it needs to be worked on. Catalans are a top 3 team, we aim to be but aren’t there yet.

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Quote: Captain Hook "They have to say something and acknowledging publicly that there is work to do is no more than they expect. In fairness it was an horrific start where everything Catalans do d resulted in a score. Not a problem Burgess has seen before in this team and it needs to be worked on. Catalans are a top 3 team, we aim to be but aren’t there yet.'"


Yes I understand that. Catalan are a better side. We were slow out of the blocks first half, then second half shows our inability to remedy of slow start in the second half.

Slow starts are a theme with us. Did a core of the players not learn from ... https://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/ ... st-helens/

I don't think it's about lessons. I think it's about the squad not being good enough to compete with the top teams.
Quote: Captain Hook "They have to say something and acknowledging publicly that there is work to do is no more than they expect. In fairness it was an horrific start where everything Catalans do d resulted in a score. Not a problem Burgess has seen before in this team and it needs to be worked on. Catalans are a top 3 team, we aim to be but aren’t there yet.'"


Yes I understand that. Catalan are a better side. We were slow out of the blocks first half, then second half shows our inability to remedy of slow start in the second half.

Slow starts are a theme with us. Did a core of the players not learn from ... https://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/ ... st-helens/

I don't think it's about lessons. I think it's about the squad not being good enough to compete with the top teams.


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And I get that you won’t be satisfied till we win a GF (or 2) and hopefully that day will come. In the meantime i’m enjoying the rugby way more than I did last season…or the season before…

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Quote: Captain Hook "And I get that you won’t be satisfied till we win a GF (or 2) and hopefully that day will come. In the meantime i’m enjoying the rugby way more than I did last season…or the season before…'"


Yes me too. I have accepted we are not up there with the top 3 and won't be for at least a few seasons, if ever. The players do seem committed this season and we have scored some nice tries. I think thats a more healthy position for me than swallowing this "lessons" stuff and expecting a difference.

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