We are good at self promotion and hyping ourselves up every year.

Then when the season starts its the same old underwhelming story on the field.

To be clear my 'Like' for Moe's post was based on the Wales match fact rather than never hoping England win ha ha

Absolutely. In an attempt to close the game out, they took of a solid defender and brought on a second fly half. Obviously we don’t know the truth, but Burgess’ comments after leaving Bath stand to reason.

Union fans have a completely warped perspective on Sam Burgess. Its like how league fans of a certain generation used to laugh about John Gallagher being a flop at Leeds. But to union fans, Gallagher was an all time great player and a feature of a legendary All Blacks team in the late 80s.

Don't want to drift off-topic on this thread, but here is a short clip of something I never thought I would see in my life-time. Rugby League getting positive air-time on a BBC RU show...

rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/rugby-union/68270718rl

Good article on Sam Burgess up to now. Definitely a work in progress, but lots of green shoots:- https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/be ... ton-wolves

Good article on Sam Burgess up to now. Definitely a work in progress, but lots of green shoots:- https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/be ... ton-wolves