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Quote: easyWire "Couldn’t have put it better myself.

I think there’s a slip into a low-pressure comfort zone when a top player joins Warrington. Not necessarily an intentional slip, but the natural result of a long contract on big money, a close and happy relationship with the top brass, and a long in the tooth leadership group who don’t have a reason to drive anything in a different way. Why would you? You’re getting paid well and your natural talent is just enough to keep your team near the top of the table without pushing yourself.

I hope that doesn’t sound too harsh, like I’m accusing some players of taking the pee intentionally, but how else do you explain the poor return on investment? We’ve literally been the only big-spending club in RL for the last decade, with only one trophy to show (and that day was without some
of our ‘star’ players!). We’ve blamed the last coach, now we’re blaming the current one despite his record of improving teams and players.

I think the answer lies closer to following the example of other top clubs, and emulating their youth development, player / management relationship, and standards.'"


This is bang on the money. The 1 trophy in the last 10 seasons really speaks for itself.

We need to face facts that top players and top prospects are going to choose to sign for Wigan, Saints or Leeds before Warrington (the real prospect of winning things) unless financially incentivised otherwise. This in turn means we attract a certain type of player.

I am afraid it appears the likes of Hill, Cooper, Clark, Currie, King et al are more motivated by picking up decent salaries than they are to actually to win a league title at any cost.

I don't know how we break this cycle. Certainly without change, it would not change on it's own.

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Quote: easyWire "When a new coach recruits a pack like that he’s set a challenge to the likes of Philbin to step up and fight for their place. This is what would happen at Wigan, Saints and Leeds. It’s happening at Huddersfield next year for sure. Pryce and Lolohea have Connor to beat for a place in the team.'"

Think Connor may be out till August based on something I read (but can’t remember where!)

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The local press on Humberside have reported that Hull expect him to be unavailable for 10 months.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Think Connor may be out till August based on something I read (but can’t remember where!)'"


Wasn’t aware he was out for that long. That’s a bit of a gamble then for Hudds. He’s on a 3 year contract but only playing for two. And he’ll be 28/29 when he returns. If a medial ligament injury has affected his pace and footwork, they’ll be relying on his rugby brain to make a difference.

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Strange signing if he really is out for that long. He's a good player though.

Regarding Hill and Cooper, if we were going in to next season with hill and Cooper as our starting props the club would be getting panned for having no recruitment policy having nt signed any replacements. Fact of the matter for both of them is that they're in the twilight of their career. They both still very good players but they're not the future.

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Quote: easyWire "Wasn’t aware he was out for that long. That’s a bit of a gamble then for Hudds. He’s on a 3 year contract but only playing for two. And he’ll be 28/29 when he returns. If a medial ligament injury has affected his pace and footwork, they’ll be relying on his rugby brain to make a difference.'"

His pace? If he comes back even slower than he is now I'd back makiele to beat him in a footrace icon_lol.gif

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