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| Quote: Wolf Hall "Interesting analysis and assumptions...sure Saints are the top team ATM but let's not forget they lost 5 Grand Finals on the bounce. They make adjustments by bringing in good recruits but also by developing and maintaining an excellent junior set up which played in Australia every year as part of their development. By comparison, until recently we were poor. Perhaps, hopefully our juniors will get the opportunities to move up to the first team and supported to develop, like Welsby has, rather than critised in the local rag and dropped.
You seem to suggest that to change a culture only root and branch of the playing group will do. I don't agree. The way Powell has gone about it has been a dangerous experiment and there is no evidence it will be successful. This could have been accomplished by a transition from old to new, instead he has given us a dispirited team, lacking in confidence with little or no leadership on and off the pitch. Sure we have new Aussi players coming in next year, how do we know they will adapt to life in Warrington, will accept Powell's coaching systems and make the team successful in the long term and not just give us a sugar rush before they retire and head off home leaving us scratching around for more players?
I want Warrington to be the top team, we need to stay in Super League which I expect we will.
We do however need a top coaching team able to get the best out of what we players we have. Isn't this what we were promised with Powell? What has been delivered, supporters cheering on Saints to beat Wakefield, cheering on HKR (who beat us last week) to beat Toulouse last night and the club pleading for supporters to cheer for the team.
It wasn't mean to be like this. We agree Gaz, we need root and branch change.
Of the coaching set up.'"
They also introduce their young players in incrementally which is crucial and ties in exactly with my point about making gradual changes in an ideal world to a successful side.
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| Quote: Wolf Hall "Interesting analysis and assumptions...sure Saints are the top team ATM but let's not forget they lost 5 Grand Finals on the bounce. They make adjustments by bringing in good recruits but also by developing and maintaining an excellent junior set up which played in Australia every year as part of their development. By comparison, until recently we were poor. Perhaps, hopefully our juniors will get the opportunities to move up to the first team and supported to develop, like Welsby has, rather than critised in the local rag and dropped.
You seem to suggest that to change a culture only root and branch of the playing group will do. I don't agree. The way Powell has gone about it has been a dangerous experiment and there is no evidence it will be successful. This could have been accomplished by a transition from old to new, instead he has given us a dispirited team, lacking in confidence with little or no leadership on and off the pitch. Sure we have new Aussi players coming in next year, how do we know they will adapt to life in Warrington, will accept Powell's coaching systems and make the team successful in the long term and not just give us a sugar rush before they retire and head off home leaving us scratching around for more players?
I want Warrington to be the top team, we need to stay in Super League which I expect we will.
We do however need a top coaching team able to get the best out of what we players we have. Isn't this what we were promised with Powell? What has been delivered, supporters cheering on Saints to beat Wakefield, cheering on HKR (who beat us last week) to beat Toulouse last night and the club pleading for supporters to cheer for the team.
It wasn't mean to be like this. We agree Gaz, we need root and branch change.
Of the coaching set up.'"
Like any other club importing NRL players, we don't really know and neither does Powell for sure - like any other coach.
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| Quote: Wolf Hall "Interesting analysis and assumptions...sure Saints are the top team ATM but let's not forget they lost 5 Grand Finals on the bounce. They make adjustments by bringing in good recruits but also by developing and maintaining an excellent junior set up which played in Australia every year as part of their development. By comparison, until recently we were poor. Perhaps, hopefully our juniors will get the opportunities to move up to the first team and supported to develop, like Welsby has, rather than critised in the local rag and dropped.
You seem to suggest that to change a culture only root and branch of the playing group will do. I don't agree. The way Powell has gone about it has been a dangerous experiment and there is no evidence it will be successful. This could have been accomplished by a transition from old to new, instead he has given us a dispirited team, lacking in confidence with little or no leadership on and off the pitch. Sure we have new Aussi players coming in next year, how do we know they will adapt to life in Warrington, will accept Powell's coaching systems and make the team successful in the long term and not just give us a sugar rush before they retire and head off home leaving us scratching around for more players?
I want Warrington to be the top team, we need to stay in Super League which I expect we will.
We do however need a top coaching team able to get the best out of what we players we have. Isn't this what we were promised with Powell? What has been delivered, supporters cheering on Saints to beat Wakefield, cheering on HKR (who beat us last week) to beat Toulouse last night and the club pleading for supporters to cheer for the team.
It wasn't mean to be like this. We agree Gaz, we need root and branch change.
Of the coaching set up.'"
Say at the start of the season, we'd brought in your ideal coaching team (whoever that is).
A question for you:
Given that the same clear out was made, as the same players refused to participate in the changing of standards and expectations, and your new coaching set up was having to mould a virtually new team throughout the season (ie this season), how long would you give them to prove themselves before making a change?
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| By the way you can all relax, whilst I was quite TAKEN with MPN's lucky underpants idea I've managed to persuade 'lucky charm' Auntie Rico to attend this evening (well I just asked her if she fancied a night out to be fair..)
I'm sure she'll love it so fingers crossed on both counts, an unexpected Wire victory and a decent place to park as she'll no doubt be wearing inappropriate rugby spectating footwear
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| I would be happy with a narrow loss tonight, no injuries or suspensions then a full, committed side against Toulouse next week. Depriving Toulouse of two points is vital.
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