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Why the hell are we on about Everton again?? Please provide evidence of these wondrous fans keeping them in the league.
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| Quote Wiremansam="Wiremansam"Why the hell are we on about Everton again?? Please provide evidence of these wondrous fans keeping them in the league.'"
Read this:
Quote Wiremansam="KineticRR"Everton fan here who can speak on the whole relegation and sacking saga...
By the way, I actually went to the home game vs Saints over the last game vs Crystal Palace, so it was ALMOST worth it. I am a Season Ticket holder for Everton and Wire so I saw the change in the culture from club to fans...
For months we saw our Team (Everton) playing some utterly garbage football, week in week out. Poor squad selections, negative formations, complete inability to defend from set-pieces. Lampard comes in and we get 2 solid results, plus decent looking performances. Even competing with Man City for 85 minutes... Which was our equivalent to the Wire game vs Saints. BUT, we still let in numerous goals from set-pieces which cost us big games. So results-wise, it wasn't that different.
If anyone heard Sean Dyche's comment about Everton, saying "I don't think these guys know how to win", that's exactly what it felt like to me. And that's exactly where Wire are now... We can take whatever lead we like but we have the overwhelming feeling that we are about to mess it up.
After 5 weeks under Lampard, the football had to be reverted to a Sam Allardyce style, so we didn't look any better then we did under Benitez. And I don't think Wire would look any better with a new coach right now either, and Everton still lost big games and looked shocking under Lampard at times. BUT, the difference was home games. As Everton fans, we had the collective feeling that Goodison was going to be our fortress and our players will get 100% from us and we expect 100% effort in return. As soon as we conceded a goal, we remained quiet as expected but as the cheering from opposition wore off, the crowd got back on side with the players, because they needed us. They'd been humiliated all season, so they needed us backing them, to get their heads focused on the fight.
And that's what the Warrington players need too. We only have 2 home games left, but we have got to be fully onside with the players, including during bad performances. Whoever has the drum needs to be going for close to 80 minutes. We need the South Stand making noise constantly, and we have to get behind the players when they make a mistake, concede a try, or lose the lead. We might only need 4 points to stay up, and the best way for that to happen is to do everything that we can to get ourselves those wins at home. Even if that doesn't happen, they need to know that we're still with them when playing away.
The Halliwell Jones Stadium has got to become a fortress. We must get behind the players for everything. Even after mistakes, they need to know that we are still there for them.
For Everton, the performances were hard to watch, but for the sake of our club, we had to change our attitude from the booing and shouting. It had to be done. Wherever you stand on Powell, that doesn't matter. It wasn't even about Lampard anymore. It was just about showing the players that their fans believed in them.
I know money is tight for everyone right now, but if you can afford to go to the last home games, please do. We need attendance, we need noise, and we need positivity. Criticism is understandable, which Everton players got online, but at the games, we're there until the end.
"Wire till I die" has never been so important.'" |
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"I'm just worried for you mate; that you aren't being entertained.'"
Getting beat every week is not my sort of entertainment and watching certain players taking the urine..but thanks for your concern.and classing me as a mate |
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| Quote DAG="DAG"This the same Everton who haven’t won a trophy for 27 years?
The same Everton fans who have helped several managers out the door, such as Martinez, Silva and Koeman?
The same Everton fans who only last week were protesting outside of Goodison and who have been vocally showing their discontent towards the board for years?'"
And the same Everton fans who vociferously supported their team to help them stay up. |
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| Quote moving on...="moving on..."With all due respect you can't compare these clubs in terms of fans expectations.
Wakey play in a ground that looks like downtown Baghdad, with a bang average team (Bar 2 diamonds) on a budget of about 68p and no hope of finishing above mid table at best every year.
Wire however play and train in state of the art facilities, we are bank rolled by two multi-millionaires with a team (on paper at least) that some clubs can only dream of. We are littered with internationals and marquee names who until recently, were not expected to finish outside the top 4 at the bare minimum.
So you see, Wakey fans are happy to accept mediocrity and spend every season waiting for those or or two "big" wins, because that's as good as it gets. Wire fans however (or the ones with any sense at least), demand more from the players and the club because when you have a team with the names and talent like we do, and the amount of money and investment that's been pumped into the club; plus the recent history of success with the LLS and the Challenge cup. That's where the bar should be set.
And if the players cant handle criticism and frustration from the fans after only winning 4 games from the last 19, then they aren't in the right job. 8th time this season I think it is we've blown a 2 score lead in the last 15 minutes. You can't put any blame on the fans here. The fans on the whole have stuck with the lads all season but this last month has been the straw that's broken even the most staunchest "Real fans" back. Enough is enough.'"
yeah bang average  turned you over in three games so what does that say about your super duper players that's milking your club,
by the way most Wakey fans do not accept mediocrity and yes we are ashamed of the stadium but the you've seemed to have forgotten about your e hole you played out of, difference is we've had a council that has held us back and now that councilor Box has left we're now getting things moving,
also we don't latch on to other football clubs like the shudderfield limpets have done or buy other successful clubs then dump on them |
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| Quote sir adrian morley="sir adrian morley"Getting beat every week is not my sort of entertainment and watching certain players taking the urine..but thanks for your concern.and classing me as a mate'"
I'm with you on certain players taking the urine. Not good. |
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"No, because of my work patterns. Is that ok with you mate?'"
Just checking, you seem to have all the answers but don’t go to the match? Instructive. |
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| Quote snowie="snowie"yeah bang average
turned you over in three games so what does that say about your super duper players that's milking your club,
by the way most Wakey fans do not accept mediocrity and yes we are ashamed of the stadium but the you've seemed to have forgotten about your e hole you played out of, difference is we've had a council that has held us back and now that lover councilor Box has left we're now getting things moving,
also we don't latch on to other football clubs like the shudderfield limpets have done or buy other successful clubs then dump on them'"
We were lucky that Simon Moran helped us out when he did, otherwise we'd still be at Wilderspool - although Wilderspool did have a certain charm.
You beat us 3 times and deservedly so too imo. |
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"Please point out the insult if you don't mind.'"
If you can't be bothered reading back your posts to me and mine to you, I'm done. |
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| Quote DallasMead2="DallasMead2"Just checking, you seem to have all the answers but don’t go to the match? Instructive.'"
When I'm free, I do go to matches or watch them on Sky.
If I can't watch, I'll listen on the radio.
If you disagree with my posts, fine, no probs. Why don't you directly discuss them? |
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| Quote MorePlaymakersNeeded="MorePlaymakersNeeded"If you can't be bothered reading back your posts to me and mine to you, I'm done.'"
I can't recall insulting you, that's why I've asked you to show me and of course I'll apologise.
Please, if you don't mind, would you find the post/posts. |
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