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I totally get the comments made and it’s hard to disagree with you . It’s a ‘ prisoners dilemma ‘ situation ! What do you do for the best ? From an outsider looking in , looking at it as holistically as an outsider can . The players in the squad are better than what they are displaying . That can only be a managerial issue in my view . Those player are competitive and don’t need a winning mentality . You don’t need to coach ‘winning mentality’ because if you did they would have been dropped before they reached academy standard . My opinion is - the manager manages what he has and what he has is better than what is being displayed. A quality coach gets the bets out of even a mediocre team and Powell is failing the club in that respect . Negativity breads negativity and I feel the club needs to set a standard and keep going until they get it right. Powell is not the man

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Quote: shinymcshine241 "Some issue is that we've seemed to suffer, for several years, from poor development from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, and it was seen that Powell was the right person to address that.'"


Interesting to consider this in the context of Currie and King. They emerged from our Academy to become leading SL players in their position and get the backing of the club with big contracts. There wasn't a problem developing them from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, nor was there a lack of willingness in the club to invest in retaining its home grown talent.

But now they are two of the players getting the most stick on here.

What did the coaches/club do wrong?

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Interesting to consider this in the context of Currie and King. They emerged from our Academy to become leading SL players in their position and get the backing of the club with big contracts. There wasn't a problem developing them from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, nor was there a lack of willingness in the club to invest in retaining its home grown talent.

But now they are two of the players getting the most stick on here.

What did the coaches/club do wrong?'"

Well Currie has been “cruelled” by ACLs in both knees, thus no lateral movement. King? Dunno? Maybe Price’s one trick pony attack move of high kick to the corner on the 5th showed him at his best?

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Interesting to consider this in the context of Currie and King. They emerged from our Academy to become leading SL players in their position and get the backing of the club with big contracts. There wasn't a problem developing them from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, nor was there a lack of willingness in the club to invest in retaining its home grown talent.

But now they are two of the players getting the most stick on here.

What did the coaches/club do wrong?'"


Bit of a naive post to say the least.

Why blame the coaches and club, when most of the fault is likely with players who probably lack both the ability and dedication to become as good as it was hoped they would be?

Yes, the club gave the contracts, but ultimately its upto the player to knuckle down and make the most of their opportunity - in the case of a number of our players, they have simply not been upto it and they only have themselves to blame.

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Quote: DallasMead2 "Well Currie has been “cruelled” by ACLs in both knees, thus no lateral movement. King? Dunno? Maybe Price’s one trick pony attack move of high kick to the corner on the 5th showed him at his best?'"


Yes Currie was exceptional before his knee injuries. But I don't see why his tackling is so half hearted this season both against Wigan and Leeds.

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Currie's debut was in 2012, King's in 2014 (same year as Philbin) - and the lack of any 1st team regulars coming through the ranks since them highlights the potential issue (unless I've made any glaring omissions - aside from the younger players who've been given a chance this season under Powell).

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