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| Quote: Gazwire "The very nature of his task - to change the culture into a winning mentality - means he's going to have to get rid of players who aren't prepared to buy in to this. If players were willing, then we wouldn't have nose dived. Some of them aren't buying into this, therefore a nose dive is to be expected.
The choice is
Pretty much what I was about to type.
It's either one of 2 things here,
1. The players simply aren't good enough and so need binning off.
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2. The players are good enough but have downed tools.
Whichever it is, I don't see how sacking the coach and keeping players who are either not good enough, or are bad apples, makes any sense?
Personally, I'm now inclined to go with option 2. So much average/mediocre players in the squad that it's untrue.
Watching the likes of Currie, King and Ratchford go through the motions of imitating RL players is now nothing short of laughable - there are a lot of players living on past glories and, as many already suspected, it means there is zero chance of a short term fix, which sacking Powell would be.
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| Quote: shinymcshine241 "Some issue is that we've seemed to suffer, for several years, from poor development from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, and it was seen that Powell was the right person to address that.'"
Interesting to consider this in the context of Currie and King. They emerged from our Academy to become leading SL players in their position and get the backing of the club with big contracts. There wasn't a problem developing them from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, nor was there a lack of willingness in the club to invest in retaining its home grown talent.
But now they are two of the players getting the most stick on here.
What did the coaches/club do wrong?
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Interesting to consider this in the context of Currie and King. They emerged from our Academy to become leading SL players in their position and get the backing of the club with big contracts. There wasn't a problem developing them from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, nor was there a lack of willingness in the club to invest in retaining its home grown talent.
But now they are two of the players getting the most stick on here.
What did the coaches/club do wrong?'"
Well Currie has been “cruelled” by ACLs in both knees, thus no lateral movement. King? Dunno? Maybe Price’s one trick pony attack move of high kick to the corner on the 5th showed him at his best?
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
And you'll rise high today,
Fly away, Far away,
Far from pain....:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53838.jpg |
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Interesting to consider this in the context of Currie and King. They emerged from our Academy to become leading SL players in their position and get the backing of the club with big contracts. There wasn't a problem developing them from youth/reserve players into first team regulars, nor was there a lack of willingness in the club to invest in retaining its home grown talent.
But now they are two of the players getting the most stick on here.
What did the coaches/club do wrong?'"
Bit of a naive post to say the least.
Why blame the coaches and club, when most of the fault is likely with players who probably lack both the ability and dedication to become as good as it was hoped they would be?
Yes, the club gave the contracts, but ultimately its upto the player to knuckle down and make the most of their opportunity - in the case of a number of our players, they have simply not been upto it and they only have themselves to blame.
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| Quote: DallasMead2 "Well Currie has been “cruelled” by ACLs in both knees, thus no lateral movement. King? Dunno? Maybe Price’s one trick pony attack move of high kick to the corner on the 5th showed him at his best?'"
Yes Currie was exceptional before his knee injuries. But I don't see why his tackling is so half hearted this season both against Wigan and Leeds.
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| Currie's debut was in 2012, King's in 2014 (same year as Philbin) - and the lack of any 1st team regulars coming through the ranks since them highlights the potential issue (unless I've made any glaring omissions - aside from the younger players who've been given a chance this season under Powell).
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