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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "firstly, i appreciate the uptitling.
and whilst i did back track on it, the point remains that those players in my opinion are deffo the top picks for kicks up the booty.
having thought about this for a while, something else i'll bring up, everyone was ranting and raving about that 17 minutes vid of the first meeting, how he was laying the law down and it was ace, he mentioned about changing structures, calls on the field and challenging the players, wanting them to go with him (i wonder if this section was released on purpose?) the play on field, and the comments recently suggest that this hasn't bedded in as well as he made made/hoped.
Also, i'm wondering if what he's alluding to, was trying to change the way we play to fit the personnel we've got, you can't play a power game without big bodies (stay with me) so he's trying to implement a more mobile way of shifting opposition defences around, we're all pretty pee'd off at philbin not running straight, and on those arcing lines, cooper was doing it in the league game v wakey as well. i wonder if some of the players aren't buying in to that, and just reverting to whatever.
just a thought. might explain some of the disjointed play and the lack of effort in defence, which has been shocking this last couple of weeks.'"
This is what I'd convinced myself of, over the winter, especially when it became apparent we weren't signing another prop. I'd still like to believe it, but my faith in it eroded quite quickly, even as early as the Wigan friendly.
I do believe the players aren't buying into his game plans, whatever they may be. It's going to take time and I hope he's given that time to implement his plans and weed out the players that aren't complying.
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| INOUT Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I've read some nonsense on here before, but this is up there with the best of it
I did say he had a few good years, however, on the whole, routinely failed to get his team into the playoffs. Was it 3 in a row that he missed at the end of his time at Cas? He had some good times, but also had long periods of average. It’s mediocre.
People on here talk about Powell being a super coach, he’s missed the play offs more than he’s made them! Hardly a golden CV
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "INOUTI did say he had a few good years, however, on the whole, routinely failed to get his team into the playoffs. Was it 3 in a row that he missed at the end of his time at Cas? He had some good times, but also had long periods of average. It’s mediocre.
People on here talk about Powell being a super coach, he’s missed the play offs more than he’s made them! Hardly a golden CV'"
In your assessment you are neglecting to mention £.
He had Castleford outperforming their cap limit and had a number of man of steel players whilst improving young players.
Anyway what are the options? We had 3 barren years with Price, another 1 wont hurt and give Powell the chance.
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| Quote: Wires71 "In your assessment you are neglecting to mention £.
He had Castleford outperforming their cap limit and had a number of man of steel players whilst improving young players.
Anyway what are the options? We had 3 barren years with Price, another 1 wont hurt and give Powell the chance.'"
£ is one of the things that the board should have factored in though, as I’ve said. There’s little evidence that he can work with stars (debate on who the stars are aside), as Chase and Hardaker went off the rails and the others moved on quickly.
Paul Anderson has the same amount of trophies, and had success with a limited squad, but if he got the job we’d be scratching our heads in amazement.
My point is that the recruiting panel don’t seem to have a criteria for the post. The board have curated a squad of stars (at time of purchase) but haven’t got a leader who can get the best out of them. This isn’t a Powell bashing, this is that the direction from the executive isn’t clear.
To me, right now, it looks like the Cullen era when we had Monaghan, King, Anderson, Hicks etc and all the tools to compete but unfortunately the leader couldn’t squeeze the best out of them. And I love Paul Cullen, but the difference between Tony Smith and Paul Cullen is night and day.
If the board are maximising the cap, using the marquees and putting all of the available tools on the table for success, the coach must be a part of that plan, not just someone to hand out shirts. They need to knit the personalities, the EGO’s and the skills together to make a team.
I’m not saying Price is/was better (looks that way at the moment, his stock is rising with every poor week), but what I am saying is that we announced Price was leaving before a ball had been kicked, why rush and jump in to a decision unless it is the outstanding candidate.
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "£ is one of the things that the board should have factored in though, as I’ve said. There’s little evidence that he can work with stars (debate on who the stars are aside), as Chase and Hardaker went off the rails and the others moved on quickly.
Paul Anderson has the same amount of trophies, and had success with a limited squad, but if he got the job we’d be scratching our heads in amazement.
My point is that the recruiting panel don’t seem to have a criteria for the post. The board have curated a squad of stars (at time of purchase) but haven’t got a leader who can get the best out of them. This isn’t a Powell bashing, this is that the direction from the executive isn’t clear.
To me, right now, it looks like the Cullen era when we had Monaghan, King, Anderson, Hicks etc and all the tools to compete but unfortunately the leader couldn’t squeeze the best out of them. And I love Paul Cullen, but the difference between Tony Smith and Paul Cullen is night and day.
If the board are maximising the cap, using the marquees and putting all of the available tools on the table for success, the coach must be a part of that plan, not just someone to hand out shirts. They need to knit the personalities, the EGO’s and the skills together to make a team.
I’m not saying Price is/was better (looks that way at the moment, his stock is rising with every poor week), but what I am saying is that we announced Price was leaving before a ball had been kicked, why rush and jump in to a decision unless it is the outstanding candidate.'"
I think many will share the comments on our recruitment strategy (if there is one). I would like to see us have a Director of Rugby who can have a longer term view on recruitment, retention, strategy, facilities, standards, sporting direction. Free up Karl to concentrate on marketing and non sporting operations.
Price should be remembered for the CC win balanced with the 3 limp out playoffs. He had 4 seasons. 3 seasons to apply a "quick fix" which he never did. Powell has come into a circus show of a club and playing squad and has had 10 games or so.
If we are still in this predicament in 12 months time and not showing progress then I will be calling for him to go. Until then I back him 100%.
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "
To me, right now, it looks like the Cullen era when we had Monaghan, King, Anderson, Hicks etc and all the tools to compete but unfortunately the leader couldn’t squeeze the best out of them. And I love Paul Cullen, but the difference between Tony Smith and Paul Cullen is night and day.
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It's more like the Cullen era when we had Reardon, Rauhihi, Sullivan, Vinnie Anderson, Swann. Players who were past their best or not as good as we thought.
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