It’s all immaterial . Let’s stop analysing the individual games or performance. It’s a fact we lack quality and we have digressed for some time. The truth is the problem is far more widespread and we’ve been in decline for a while. The reason imo is because we are on a vanity project and there’s a need for sanity.

The money spent trying to find a half back combination is frightening for the last 3/4 years. Start with the pack and that allows your attacking players to play. It then breeds confidence

The game at times is simple but complicated by over analysing. Not been a team that’s won the wholly grail of a grand final without a decent pack for the half’s to play behind

Ask any half back

No issue with that after half a dozen games, just that he'll have a decent contract to pay-off or a transfer fee, so not sure it's realistic that he'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

He must be livid with Holmes then

Cas game, I think he got subbed and didn't come back on

Unless we're including running sideways, backwards and in circles then Matautia must be on the naughty step as well.

Doesn't have to be a transfer fee (though it would make financial sense to try and get one). He could be used in a swap deal, or sold cheaply to make space on the salary cap, or just to get rid.

If he agreed to any move then he wouldn't need paying off either.