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Quote: lefty goldblatt "It's a combination of many things

I've said many times before, WE'RE TOO NICE. As a club AND a fan base. We accept being OK, or good or sometimes very good. Never excellent, or dare I say it THE BEST. God, 3 weeks ago, we beat Leeds, and there's people on here felling sorry for Leeds..... "the better side lost"...... b0110cks to that attitude. 2 points to us, and #### Leeds. They wouldn't feel sorry for us. That's where a winning mentality is built. How many GFs have they won in the last 20odd years? Likewise Wigan and Saints. The trouble is "we know our place"

Captaincy.
Well that's a joke, too. Jack Hughes? Jack flipping Hughes. He shouldn't be anywhere near the Matchday 18, let alone leading the club. Saying that, none of our squad comes across as a "leader of men". A Shaun Edwards, a Kevin Sinfield or in football, a Vincent Kompany. Someone who players will run through proverbial brick walls for. Someone who leads from the front. Unfortunately, these men are rare, and it seems we got our current captain by Price playing "eeny meeny miny Mo", and the last person was Hughes. Powell has merely carried this on. The side is made up of talented individuals and squad players. Not a leader amongst them.
Again, I'll go back to the GF of 2013. We're 16-2 up when Monaghan gets injured. We stand around, whilst Tomkins cajoles his is entire team, whilst Monaghan is being tended to. I said to the person next to me... "Wigan will score here".... guess what, they did. From then on, we didn't score another point. Even with Morley as captain. Winning teams with a winning mentality do this regularly.

The sooner we get a ruthless streak, the better. Until then, we're feeding off scraps, and praying for Saints, Leeds and Wigan slip ups.'"


Excellent post, nail hit firmly and squarely on the head!

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A doughty, workmanlike pack gave the wakefield halves enough space to look like Kenny & Sterling.

Could our current coach, and the architect of our Challenge Cup downfall not see then the problems he took advantage of would hinder him as well? A lack of backbone, no mental toughness and a huge reliance on two props?

Apparently not, and that is why a man who should be nowhere near our 17 is skipper and starting at prop.

And there's me thinking Daryl had no sense of humour.

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Over my head this.

I would just buy a prop.

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Quote: Philth "Was the Wakey loss misguided arrogance or just showing the culture of our club currently. Something is wrong, very wrong'"

The loss was against a good team with quality hardworking players across their squad. The fact fans just dismiss Wakefield like we are above them is arrogance. Super league is so much closer in respect to all teams and people just don't seem to realise it which is misguided. The match was 50/50 before it started so give Wakefield some respect rather than just sating we were really poor when we weren't. We have Mulhern, Daz Clark, Charnley and possibly Magoulias added to the squad next week which will strengthen us further.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Over my head this.

I would just buy a prop.'"

Why stop at one?
Why not two, three or even four, like we did a decade ago. Let's face it, we don't have one PROPER prop. ATEOTD, Cooper is (merely, but a good) bumped up second rower.

I've said it before, our pack consists of second rowers, and that's it.

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Totally agreed.

It’s becoming a stuck record but what troubles me is everyone of us amateur fans foresaw this, yet our professional coach and his team together with all the decision making people at our club didn’t.

I’ve said it before , stop the vanity project and let’s have some sanity.

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