Jesus that pack is depressing, god help 2022

Look on the bright side, you won’t be expecting much so anything 6 or above should be a bonus for you.

I understand that you are trying to generate a bit of positivity with this response Cap'n, but the most depressing thing for me is as it stands we are one a select bunch of teams that have max'd out their salary cap 'credit cards' and I just can't see any value or perhaps more appropriately balance in our squad.

I've come to the conclusion that that pack isn't too shabby and maybe Bullock may surprise us....he certainly has the potential. Whatever the limitations of our pack we can rest assured that Powell will play to our strengths, something Price failed miserably to do.

It's not an awful pack. Combined with the backs and the halves, it's certainly a play off team. Does it make the GF? Time will tell...

It's exactly that, balance.

If we could get a Luke Thompson quality forward, with Cooper and the rest as interchange that would be one thing. I guess we can hope Bullock turns into a top player.

Isn't the point that we have lofty ambitions though? KP tells us we want to be the best, but that pack is far from it.

If I look at the Saints starting 17 I feel we are weaker in 10+ so positions in comparison, in truth it's a mismatch. In F1 terms its Mcaren vs Mercedes. Good for the odd win and podium perhaps but over a season no real threat.

Totally agree with you Wires71. When I looked at the Saints team trotting out a the GF we all have to admit they have the best squad in SL. That does not mean we cannot beat 'em on a one-off and we definitely can beat Cat Dragons but we still are not up to them yet.

Saints have a great 17 for sure. I looked into their squad and a lot of players I have not seen play.

One challenge we have is that it is easier for Saints to tempt the top talent than Warrington based on their record and I suspect they can pay less in doing so too. I think the same for Wigan and Leeds. It's a real chicken and egg situation.

For all their new signings, and their deserved GF wins, Saints success is still largely built on Walmsley. He lifts that pack several levels during his stints.

I actually think the signing of Hurrell weakens Saints, but they will undoubtedly be the team to beat again.

I could’ve sworn I replied to this last night!
The upshot of which was, we are weaker without Hill, and a big shame about Harrison’s injury. The youngsters however have more experience. We do look unbalanced BUT I’m hoping for a Teuchel style transformation from Powell.
Saints actually look stronger for next season. I’d be surprised if we make the GF but that would make it so much sweeter!