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| We peaked in 2011. Since then, it’s been a steady decline. But, with Morley, Carvell, Monaghan, Hodgson, Briers, Monaghan, Westwood, Wood, Solomona, Bridge and Higham all at the back end of their contracts we all knew that it was coming.
We just harboured hope of Ratchford, O’Brien, Myler and Clark being enough to steer the ship, but without replacing the firepower upfront (aside from Hill and Sims, the rest have been abject failures. Obviously Cooper was already in at that point, so is discounted).
I hate to say this, but if that replacement spine would have had the same firepower that the 2011 pack had, they could have cleaned up. It’s easier to be a good half in a dominant team.
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| Judging strictly on league performance we peaked in 2011 but you could make a case that the 2012 team which won the Challenge Cup and made the GF was even stronger. We added Chris Hill to the 2011 team and for the next couple of years we had 5 top class props: Morley, Carvell, Hill, Cooper and Wood. We used to utterly steamroller opponents with those guys.
By 2014, we only had one left: Hill. The others had been replaced by Asotasi, England, Ben Evans and Glenn Riley.
That platform that we had from the juggernaut rotation of the Big Five was gone, and we never got it back again. Cooper returning in 2017 helped, Ashton Sims was decent, but other than that it was guys like George King and Ryan Bailey and Dom Crosby and Sita, with an increasingly frustrated Hill trying to shoulder the load.
We could say a lot about whether signings have hit or missed in other positions but the front row must be a big driver of our overall decline: we went from having the best pack in the game to having a middle of the road pack and probably the weakest or one of the weakest of the teams that regarded themselves as 'contenders'.
Now with Hill leaving we look like we're in real trouble up front.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Oh come on, we'd all like to win the top prizes, but since 2013, despite "utter terrible recruitment" we've been to 2 GFs and 3 CC Finals, winning a CC and LLS.
So some players (and coaches) don't meet expectations, we're still up there competing.'"
Not a dig at you at all, shiny, but there goes the "English/British disease"....... accepting being [inearly good enough[/i. We seem, as a nation, to champion the nearly man. For example, take a look at BBC Sorts Personality winners and places. It's LITTERED with plucky losers like Bruno and Mansell (pre them being champions), Henman, Rusedski, Gazza, Owen etc.. It's the British way. Wire epitomise this by extending Price's contract, and (if the earlier rumour is true) , giving Jason Clark another contract..... Sheeeesh
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| I'd be really disappointed with Jason Clark getting another contract, nothing against him at all and I do think he adds to the squad BUT he doesn't add enough and doesn't play the position we need to strengthen the most.
Put his wage towards a new prop or keep it free in case a quality prop unexpectedly becomes available during the course of the season.
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| He'll get a contract as there's nobody out there. We should keep the money and see what opportunities pop up as the year goes on. We don't need Jason clark as we have Matty davis, longstaff and Robson who bring just as much if not more than he does. Literally don't need him.
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| Quote: Or thane "He'll get a contract as there's nobody out there. We should keep the money and see what opportunities pop up as the year goes on. We don't need Jason clark as we have Matty davis, longstaff and Robson who bring just as much if not more than he does. Literally don't need him.'"
Agreed I think the rise of Longstaff now makes it a straight forward decision for me long term, however with us being down a prop and Harrison being out for the majority of 2022 it looks like we will be keeping hold of JClark rather than bringing someone in.
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