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| Cooper is one of the best prop forwards in the league. Hill can still do a good 40 (but not 80) minutes. Philbin - I know lots of people talk about the wrecking ball, but have we seen enough of it this season (I haven't). And we've got some good, big framed young lads. Akuala - just doesn't do enough and made the stupidest tackle of the season to get his latest ban.
So yes, one new prop definitely. Maybe in the mould of Bobby Wanbon.
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| Quote Ken Parr's Back Pass="Ken Parr's Back Pass"Philbin - I know lots of people talk about the wrecking ball, but have we seen enough of it this season (I haven't).'"
We totally surrendered the initiative when Price subbed Philbin first half. At that point HIll and Philbin were making big yards and producing tough defence. Then we had some subs by numbers from Price and we got BMM strolling around instead.
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| We brought BMM on and they brought Satae on and it was chalk and cheese. Our forwards have on the whole played well for a long time, consistently getting us into the right positions only for our backs to fail miserably. Widdop will be going but id like to see Austin follow him out the door, magic man nowhere near as magic as he thinks he is.
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| Cooper, Hill & Philbin have always been our most selected props over the last 3 years. There has been an over reliance on them during that period, we tend to struggle in the pack if one or more of them is missing. Davies or Clarke covering as prop isn’t the answer, they don’t have the presence and go forward we need. It’s a position that needs looking at urgently, Hill isn’t getting any younger & last night was another example that if Cooper doesn’t play we get outmuscled.
Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.
Rob Butler will be handy picky up, when it hopefully gets announced. But we still need another prop, Sita & Latu from what I’ve seen are not the answer.
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| Quote Mighty_Wires88="Mighty_Wires88"Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.'"
Quick ptb??? Really? When? Clark slows the game down for us more than the opposition tacklers do, why does he try to stay standing on the tackle when we have a referee in Liam Moore that flat refuses to call held? It's just plain dumb, the defensive line has been set for 10 seconds by the time he plays the ball. There were even some tackles last night where the whole defensive line could have set themselves, put on a smoking jacket, pulled a hamlet out of one of their socks and smoked the lot before the tackle was complete, and that's even if they had to share a lighter!
Don't understand currie being brought in to any of this he's been really good this season and during our winning run was fantastic. We played out best when price was forced in to king and currie in the second row, that was the lineup that linked our forwards and our backs instead of looking like we play as 2 separate units. The team was much better balanced.
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| Quote Or thane="Or thane"I'm Surprised Moran still invests in us to be honest, he's done it longer than i thought he would.'"
Not just Moran, Stuart Middleton has been putting more into the club in recent years. Mike Lomax and Lance James probably put in too.
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| Every single match attending fan has seen opposition forwards galloping over our pack for the last couple of years and then when we have the ball barely making it over halfway and then the hit and hope Austin kick praying Toby King hasn't fallen asleep. Then what do we use with any spare cash we have is to bring in Latu and Kibula. I'm sure I saw these 2 on a missing persons poster in Golden Square! FFS surely heads have to roll for this ridiculous situation. We should change our chant to "It'll never be our year"! (PS For those who reply "What about the Challenge Cups" I'd say you can win that by playing 3/4 good games. The GF is the big one and everyone knows it....even Catalans won a CC and Salford nearly did!) C'mon Wire get some big nasty props in or you'll struggle to sell season tickets with what is being dished up!
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"
I’m sick to the feckin back teeth.
How many seasons have we seasons have we said that without 1 or now 2 props, we won’t win a GF?!
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Every season you tell us Wire will "win the lot" 
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| Quote Mighty_Wires88="Mighty_Wires88"Cooper, Hill & Philbin have always been our most selected props over the last 3 years. There has been an over reliance on them during that period, we tend to struggle in the pack if one or more of them is missing. Davies or Clarke covering as prop isn’t the answer, they don’t have the presence and go forward we need. It’s a position that needs looking at urgently, Hill isn’t getting any younger & last night was another example that if Cooper doesn’t play we get outmuscled.
Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.
Rob Butler will be handy picky up, when it hopefully gets announced. But we still need another prop, Sita & Latu from what I’ve seen are not the answer.'"
Some good points in there. Additionally;
I don't think we are getting the best from Daryl Clark, simply because he gets sucked into too much of the hard defensive work with the opposition forwards - which our pack needs to be doing.
We have scored quite a few long distance tries this year. Forget the fact that they look really good when they come off, ask why it is happening. I think the simple reason is that we are not further up field because our pack struggles to get us there.
Whilst no younger props are being introduced to the squad (imported or from Academy), our two front line props will be 32/33 next year and Hill is certainly starting to fade.
We have been running down our resources and doing nothing to replace them ( perhaps with Doro there is some hope).
It's ironic that our near neighbour who has done pretty well with props has now managed to secure a very decent prospect for next year. They have plugged a gap very early whilst we seem to be oblivious to the fact that we have even got a problem.
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| The situation isn't unique to props. If a new coach does come in, he has the short term task of getting more out of the current squad and a longer term job of rebuilding the team via recruitment (which needs to improve dramatically) and integrating youngsters into the starting 17.
Hill, Cooper, Ratchford, Widdop, Austin, Patton, J Clark, Gelling, Akuola, Latu are, for one reason or another, going to need replacing in the next 3 years and that project needs to start NOW with the appointment of a proven coach and giving him control over player recruitment.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Every season you tell us Wire will "win the lot"
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...and perhaps you se my frustration at a coach that stubbornly refuses to pick props.
We didn’t need much to get us over the line, playing Latu for 10-15mins might well have been enough with our early field dominance to crack open FC.
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