The BBC don't mention barge overs :

"His (Makinson's) second was a long-distance run-in from inside his own half, which fellow winger Grace replicated with the final play of the match."

Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I see uber-entertainers Saints are struggling to put away the HKR team we thoroughly dismantled. Still, I'm sure all the Saints tries were full length of the field passing moves as opposed to our one yard bargeovers.'" Maybe you should have watched the tries before making this comment. Some good tries from both sides. https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... lens/50450 I can't help you if you truly believe that Warrington are a good a side as St Helens currently.

Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I see uber-entertainers Saints are struggling to put away the HKR team we thoroughly dismantled. Still, I'm sure all the Saints tries were full length of the field passing moves as opposed to our one yard bargeovers.'" Maybe you should have watched the tries before making this comment. Some good tries from both sides. https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... lens/50450 I can't help you if you truly believe that Warrington are a good a side as St Helens currently.

Quote Wires71="Wires71"Maybe you should have watched the tries before making this comment. Some good tries from both sides. https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... lens/50450 I can't help you if you truly believe that Warrington are a good a side as St Helens currently.'" Don’t forget they are about 12 months ahead of our team in development terms. They are playing good rugby at present, but the pressure games are yet to come. If they win trophies playing as they are currently then I will give then their due.

Quote Wires71="Wires71"Maybe you should have watched the tries before making this comment. Some good tries from both sides. https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... lens/50450 I can't help you if you truly believe that Warrington are a good a side as St Helens currently.'" Don’t forget they are about 12 months ahead of our team in development terms. They are playing good rugby at present, but the pressure games are yet to come. If they win trophies playing as they are currently then I will give then their due.

Shutdown Saints right side of room and you beat them.

How does that work? We reached 2 finals last year, they reached none. We added Blake Austin, they lost the Man of Steel. How is that being ahead in development terms?

Easy, their coach has been in place that much longer, the team is his and reflects that. We lost to the same team in the CC that they did. We overperformed at the end of the season whereas they were consistent for much longer. The MOS was AWOL from half way through the season, Coote has strengthened them.
Price has made great strides and we may well beat them when it matters this season but in developmental terms they are ahead of us.
I’m sure you know all this but happy to remind you.

Their coach was in place earlier because Saints acted faster when they could see Cunningham was done. At the same time we persisted with Smith. I remember the discussions on here about it at the time.

If it is that easy how would you explain how only 1 team in 14 attempts this season has managed it?

So are you agreeing with me?

Holbrook has only had half a season more than Price. If it was last season then yes your argument may have some merit but as it is they've both been at their clubs long enough now for it to not be an issue/excuse. Price likes to build throughout the season so hopefully our attack will improve further.....and judging by Burrell's latest try he's in good nick and could be an excellent addition.

Interesting point - if we'd been quicker off the mark and gone for Holbrook when he was available, would we have won SL last year?

We might have been able to pick up Barba too.