Good, this is Rugby League; Not Tiddlywinks.

We were all moaning a few seasons about how our pack was getting walked over every week and how we needed a bit of attitude and backbone. I welcome a bit of C**t in the forwards.

Chris Hill is still our best forward IMO...just needs to clear the ruck quicker.

Hilly was brilliant in the England shirt & him Cooper & Westwood ,when he played, were much better than the much hyped Burgess brothers despite their Aussie stamp of approval.
Hill's best performance seems stifled by petty gripes at the minute possibly because of the captaincy.

This was my point exactly. No one is really questioning Hill’s quality, he’s almost as good now as he was 2012 -2013. But he is getting increasingly frustrated and also frustrating FOR the referees... needs a calmer head in the Captain role and I’m hoping Widdop gets the nod next year to freshen things up a bit. Your best players quite often get even better with the responsibility of being in charge.

Hill is still a world class prop..... he just has a tendency to do a few silly things now and again..... These seem to magnify themselves as its usually near the end of the tackle count.

he is 100% being pinged now for non offences. Opposition players know they can throw themselves to the floor when getting up after a hill tackle and they stand a better chance of getting a penalty, or turning a knock on into a ball steal.

It just goes to show that the team which cons the ref can influence the result. There are too many teams playing on the edge of the rules knowing they will rarely get pulled up for infringements & also playing to get penalties for their own advantage. Rugby Union seems to have stamped out most of the niggling play& i'm sure we can do the same.