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Too simplistic to say that every time the team that loses is a bottler, but where we have been poor for a while, and were tonight, was in attacking creativity in the final 10-20 metres, and I don’t think that’s bottling. But the kicking game was bad and the clueless plays on the 5th tackle stood out. But the defence was actually OK for a Grand Final, and hopefully Austin will create a spark for next season, and not be a total nutter, as most creative players from the NRL coming to SL tend to be

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To win everything.

The standard of SL has slipped that much, that anything is possible.
Don't believe me?
Leeds 16 middle 8's
Leeds 17 Champions
Leeds 18 middle 8's

Wigan 16 champions
Wigan 17 scrape into Super 8's
Wigan 18 Champions

Wire 16 RU
Wire 17 middle 8
Wire 18 RU

No consistancy from three of the perceived "big 4"
Why not dream? Again, I said at the start of the season "there's no reason why we can't win".
Why accept mediocrity? We've got to two finals with two expensive, misfit halves.

I don't make these claims by being an uberfan, just a realist. Saints have proved that [ithey ain't all that[/i, despite their gobpooh fans telling all and sundry, otherwise.

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The reason we're not winning finals is clearly because we haven't got a proven goalkicker. I'm overlooking the fact that Ben Westwood was kicking goals at Wembley in 2010 icon_wink.gif

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "To win everything.

The standard of SL has slipped that much, that anything is possible.
Don't believe me?
Leeds 16 middle 8's
Leeds 17 Champions
Leeds 18 middle 8's

Wigan 16 champions
Wigan 17 scrape into Super 8's
Wigan 18 Champions

Wire 16 RU
Wire 17 middle 8
Wire 18 RU

No consistancy from three of the perceived "big 4"
Why not dream? Again, I said at the start of the season "there's no reason why we can't win".
Why accept mediocrity? We've got to two finals with two expensive, misfit halves.

I don't make these claims by being an uberfan, just a realist. Saints have proved that [ithey ain't all that[/i, despite their gobpooh fans telling all and sundry, otherwise.'"


Lefty were your expectations at the start of 2018 for Wire to win everything?

I understand your point but unlike those teams mentioned

1. We had/have weaker squad than those clubs.
2. We had a new coach and assistant.

I think it's been a good season but in hindsight, could have been a double if we had even reasonably effective half backs.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "To win everything.

The standard of SL has slipped that much, that anything is possible.
Don't believe me?
Leeds 16 middle 8's
Leeds 17 Champions
Leeds 18 middle 8's

Wigan 16 champions
Wigan 17 scrape into Super 8's
Wigan 18 Champions

Wire 16 RU
Wire 17 middle 8
Wire 18 RU

No consistancy from three of the perceived "big 4"
Why not dream? Again, I said at the start of the season "there's no reason why we can't win".
Why accept mediocrity? We've got to two finals with two expensive, misfit halves.

I don't make these claims by being an uberfan, just a realist. Saints have proved that [ithey ain't all that[/i, despite their gobpooh fans telling all and sundry, otherwise.'"

I can’t help feeling that this post flies in the face of your signature!

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Wouldn’t say we bottled it.
For us to win that game the pies would have had to bottle it, they almost did, but just hung in there.
Think getting to the cup final made the grand final a game to many for us.

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