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The flying biscuit is spot on. Declans biggest problem is nothing to do with playing ability. He needs to bully his team mates around the park and boss the plays. Too often he is pushed out of it. One thing I will say in his defence is that his own child has been desperately ill this year, dec is only a kid himself and has carried a lot.. perhaps too much , on his shoulders.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "Agree with your views on Hiku absolute quality. ...
But the Pomeroy situation will show me if we have had a mentality change or are going to continue with "daft" signings. ...

He linked up well with hiku that's true but let's be honest he has little to no pace and will be guaranteed to miss more than he plays. ...It would be a daft sentimental re-signing....

If we cut him lose it will show we are being serious about next year. ...

I think we'll give him a one year year deal.'"


For arguments sake let's say burgesses contract expires next season he has been in contact and in principle agrees to sign with us next season resigning pomeroy for another year would make sense he would most probably be on a low wage and if injured Russell can cover ?

We are starting to feel the effect of a few years or questionable signings and it may be hard to fix given out position in SL under question and limited time to sign players?? Hopefully we can get our SL status for next season confirmed as fast as possible and get to work on rebuilding. I don't think it's an easy fix as we don't know how the contracts are worked in terms of wages and how much cap space would be available as an example atkins is probably in less this season than he was last year and it's in the contract as Ben curries salary will increase season upon season Atkins decrease would cover curries increase or maybe part of it so the idea that an outgoing players cap space Is freed up would not always be the case, some will this season as so many are ooc but it will be a few seasons before we are able to have acquired a team comparable to 2012 we were able to time and negotiate players contracts in a way we could have a lot of quality within the squad but at differing stages of their contracts!!

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Quote: Wires71 "He's not a kid. Patton is 22.

Deacon at that age was playing for GB. Sean Long was 21. Sam Tomkins 20. George Williams 20.

A classic example for me was last years GF. Had zero impact on the game.'"


Lets not get carried away Deacon until he was 22 was a second choice behind the Paul Brothers. he played off the bench in his first two grand finals and his third grand final aged 23 he finally got a start as Henry Paul had moved on.... Lets see how Dec gets on with a few grand finals behind him.

interestingly in the NRL Ash Taylor aged 20 was hailed as the next exciting young prospect... hes now 22 and still an exciting young prospect..but delivering wooden spoon battles for the Titans.
The Penrith panthers' Nathan Cleary will be 20 in a couple of months hes the current next exciting young prospect I wonder if he'll have delivered a title for Penrith in the next two years ....I doubt it.

and the best of all the exciting young talents Ive seen in the NRL is Matt Moylan hes 26 now and still cant nail down an Origin spot ....but hes the closest thing ive seen to lockyer..... surely at 26 he should be washed up....if that's how we are treating players like patton.

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Didn't Patton score our try at Old Trafford last season ? We seemed to fall apart once a probably unfit Sandow was brought on for a last hurrah to give the faithful something to cheer. Seemed to me like another monumental management cock up at the final whistle.

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Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "For arguments sake let's say burgesses contract expires next season he has been in contact and in principle agrees to sign with us next season resigning pomeroy for another year would make sense he would most probably be on a low wage and if injured Russell can cover ?

We are starting to feel the effect of a few years or questionable signings and it may be hard to fix given out position in SL under question and limited time to sign players?? Hopefully we can get our SL status for next season confirmed as fast as possible and get to work on rebuilding. I don't think it's an easy fix as we don't know how the contracts are worked in terms of wages and how much cap space would be available as an example atkins is probably in less this season than he was last year and it's in the contract as Ben curries salary will increase season upon season Atkins decrease would cover curries increase or maybe part of it so the idea that an outgoing players cap space Is freed up would not always be the case, some will this season as so many are ooc but it will be a few seasons before we are able to have acquired a team comparable to 2012 we were able to time and negotiate players contracts in a way we could have a lot of quality within the squad but at differing stages of their contracts!!'"


We may not have salary cap space but can I appeal to Dezzie to give us some breathing space? The odd full stop would make your posts a lot easier to read.

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I can see how cap space should hinder us signing 2 of the best players in the world?
You only need £300k of margin from the full amount.

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