any one got the vid of rhat game as i,m struggling to get sleep at night..utter tripe.totally devoid of any attacking ideas unless its a kick..as for these middle 8s games is we,ll b fine the only stumbling block will be ourselves...4 wins we,ll be fine but should it come down to us being drawn into this,

We used to have a system where ,usually in the second half, we had 2 hookers on the field together as in the days of Monaghan & Higham/ Clark & Higham & it was always very effective at scattering defences & led to many a try. It seems strange we don't use that idea anymore & i'm sure playing alongside the more experienced Clark would bring on both Dwyer & Smith.

Did I imagine Lineham pulling Sims hair? Nearly spat out my ovaltine!

Not a good advert for Super League, but probably expectable from two mediocre sides having a go

Good point Archy, although I am sure we have had 2 hookers on at the same times in some recent games and it has as you say added a dimension to our play in a positive manner.

Nothing silly about it....Widnes put two very good chances on the floor vs Wire. Had they have stuck thinks might have been very different. Fitness told in the end, that is all we have to go on. Play is very ropey still.