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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"When were were cr☆p we had good reason for it....we were in heavy debt.
There is no excuse for mediocre performances now.
Even when we're were broke, the team were trying. We loved them for it. We were not broken in defeat....except for cc draw defeats of course.'"
Absolute bullseye this. Said it numerous times, we were always the plucky underdog and fans and players gave their all.
But we didn't have a pot to pee in. So the were mitigating circumstances for poor performances.
What Smith has allowed to happen in the last 4-5 years is a total dereliction of duty end of story |
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| Quote Tiz Lad="Tiz Lad"
What Smith has allowed to happen in the last 4-5 years is a total dereliction of duty end of story'"
The damning facts are
1. No GF win in 8 seasons. (2010,11,12,13,14,15,16,17)
2. No CC win in 5 seasons. (2013,14,15,16,17)
3. Currently 10th in the league.
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| To add to that - here's our league placings since 2010. There's a very definite downward trend since that hot 2011 season.
Last year was a blip for a number of factors. Following the trend, around 10th this season is actually where we "should" be.
Also, as you say, zero Championships won during this period.
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| Quote Jimathay="Jimathay"To add to that - here's our league placings since 2010. There's a very definite downward trend since that hot 2011 season.
Last year was a blip for a number of factors. Following the trend, around 10th this season is actually where we "should" be.
Also, as you say, zero Championships won during this period.
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Great graph, they are brilliant aren't they? |
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That's the great thing about facts. Hard to argue against.
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| Quote Jimathay="Jimathay"To add to that - here's our league placings since 2010. There's a very definite downward trend since that hot 2011 season.
Last year was a blip for a number of factors. Following the trend, around 10th this season is actually where we "should" be.
Also, as you say, zero Championships won during this period.
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slightly misleading over 2014 |
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"That's the great thing about facts. Hard to argue against.'"
Graphs aren't facts they are a representation of facts, alter the scale bar and our predicted malaise we should be 7th this year not 10th as the Jimathay states, whether that is a comfort or not we are where we are I suppose and we all agree it's not where we want to be.
Spike up to 1st or second next year and this evaluate over a longer time frame and year is the blip and as for your damning 'facts' the graph shows that 5 seasons out of 8 aren't that damning IMO but this is a whole different discussion to how much the fans are to blame |
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"Graphs aren't facts they are a representation of facts, alter the scale bar and our predicted malaise we should be 7th this year not 10th as the Jimathay states, whether that is a comfort or not we are where we are I suppose and we all agree it's not where we want to be.
Spike up to 1st or second next year and this evaluate over a longer time frame and year is the blip and as for your damning 'facts' the graph shows that 5 seasons out of 8 aren't that damning IMO but this is a whole different discussion to how much the fans are to blame'"
Please show me anywhere in my post that I mentioned the word graph.
The league positions are fact though, and back up my personal [iinterpretation[/i of the facts that as a club we are declining, not ascending. |
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Just for a reality check please put up a graph of our performance for the 10 years previous to 2010.
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We were the City of RL. For 35 years both clubs failed to win a major trophy then broke their duck at Wembley. We then went a few years being the Arsenal of RL, winning the odd Cup but not Super League.
I don't know what we are now.
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| Quote Psychedelic Casual="Psychedelic Casual"We were the City of RL. For 35 years both clubs failed to win a major trophy then broke their duck at Wembley. We then went a few years being the Arsenal of RL, winning the odd Cup but not Super League.
I don't know what we are now.'"
Shat. Boring, predictable, clueless, great trainers. |
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