It's because he treats our match day performance outcome like it's an act of God, out of anybody's hands, rather than as a result of the coaching methods and team preparation. The latter he always vindicates with "but we trained well". But this cannot be the case as to train well must infer to have prepared well for the desired result, and our desired results have been terrible, thus bringing the preparation into question to us fans, but never seemingly to him.

If we make 8th we'll be playing dead rubbers.
So I agree. Play all the youngsters.

Why oh why are people saying if we make the 8 - It's not happening, the Hudds v Pies draw last week extinguished any lingering hope - Wigan have Widnes at home and a dreadful catalans team away - So that would mean us winning all 4 including pies away

Huddersfield have Leigh and Widnes at home

Wigan have not won a Super League game since 23rd April . That is 8 games. If Widnes win on Sunday & we win tomorrow it should be an interesting run in. So it is still possible to make the top 8

Here’s the remaining last five matches in phase one for each of the clubs in the red zone Leigh Centurions (H), Wigan Warriors (H), St Helens (A), Castleford Tigers (H).

Huddersfield Giants Salford (A)Widnes Vikings (H), Leigh Centurions (H), Hull FC (A).

Leigh Centurions Catalans Dragons (A), Warrington Wolves (A), Huddersfield Giants (A), Salford Red Devils (H).

Warrington Wolves Wakefield Trinity (A), Leigh Centurions (H), Wigan Warriors (A), Widnes Vikings (H).


Widnes Vikings Wigan Warriors (A), Huddersfield Giants (A), Wakefield Trinity (H), Warrington Wolves (A).

Wigan Warriors Widnes Vikings (H), Catalans Dragons (A), Warrington Wolves (H), Leeds Rhinos (H).

We have to win 2 more than Huddersfield, they have:
Salford A
Widnes H
Leigh H
Hull FC A

We Have:
Wakey A
Leigh H
Wigan A
Widnes H

It's improbable but not impossible, if Huddersfield won at Salford this week or we lose at Wakey though, we're destined for the middle 8's

The Wigan Hudds draw didn't really affect much. Due to points difference we still had to win two more games than them regardless. The killer for us was losing at Huddersfield, and by such a margin.