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| I can't remember every injury but
"Lewis Tierney, Joe Burgess, Dom Manfredi, Oliver Gildart, Sam Tomkins, Jake Shorrocks, Connor Farrell, Liam Farrell, Micky McIlorum, John Bateman, Ryan Sutton, Jack Wells and Sean O’Loughlin."
Tierny - landed awkwardly after putting a kick through
Manfredi - ACL after awkward landing after chase tackle
Gildart - All on ferres that one
tomkins - foot injury (rumours off the pitch but even on the pitch hardly something you put down to being overly aggressive)
burges + gelling + faz - lockers - slight leg muscle injuries (i think) same as above
shorrocks - recurring knee injury done during training
micky - freak accident
bateman - shoulder injury (maybe put his body about too much in contact so maybe one so far you have a solid point...also could just be awkward contact)
Sutton - Eye injury
As you can see most are accidents and also most in the backs, usually the least aggressive of the players on any team (lasy year it was the pack we never had). On top of this Wane has come out and said they have done full investigations running over a long period of time with their medical staff and can find no common causes.
Also have you seen Widnes Vikings injury list, just as bad but no accusations of over aggression. What about Leeds and their injury list last year?
As for you not thinking it was negative
"Wane, it’s him, he’s the problem." - Yes he won us the GF, were you there? Yes hes gets the young lads up for the game and we win, do you? What would you have him do?
"Being more aggressive and physical than the opposition is a very basic ‘Plan A’ from the games highest profile club. ‘Plan B’ seems to be complaining about all the injuries resulting from ‘Plan A’. Shaun Wane, as head coach, should take full responsibility. He owes the fans a little more sophistication" - Did you see the way we were playing before the injuries? As for blaming injuries, he is asked about them in every press conference post past 3 games and every time he has said "we have them but it's not an excuse, we need to win these"
"Sam Tomkins is the highest profile victim, Super League’s only ‘marquee player’, who’s sadly yet to make an appearance. It’s the wrong environment for him to be in. Will he ever be the same player again, it’s increasingly unlikely. It’s more likely that he’ll make a comeback at some point, but then break down with injury again due to Wigan’s style of play." - A foot injury, complicated by the fact he the plates feel uncomfortable (again probs done off the pitch but yes lets blame Wane and Wigan) If you want to blame someone look at the NZwarriors perhaps? Where he suffered and was poorly treated for his knee injury.
"Recent years have been a very successful period for Wigan Warriors, but it’s resulted in the demise of a number of the country’s best players, though injury. George Williams should take note and make his way to the NRL, to avoid the same fate." - Who has demised? And the comment on Williams... please!
The whole article is a hatchet job mate. Your research was poor and evidence non existent.
Oh and please list these players whose careers you claim we have ruined as that is one hell of an allegation.
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| Quote: Geoff "Most of the injuries were not as a result of over aggression, many not even in contact, and if your theory had any merit you would expect the majority of injuries amongst the forwards, whereas in fact the opposite is true.'"
Don't think that its as clear cut as that tho it's arguable that these accidental injuries to players may not have happened if their bodies were not put under so much strain and that as it's prop v prop they are or relatively equal size and strength so kind of nullify each other out second row and centre size and strengths vary who are hitting your centres n wingers who are hardly the biggest in SL as good as they are
I think its more than that Just like a f1 car or race car the more finely tuned it it the more prone they are to break down and it's the same with some players. One thing is for certain tho injuries are more widespread and frequent as the players become bigger faster and stronger which itself is to be expected but clubs inabilities to have adequate cover means that the quality in general drops we could probably get close to two starting teams sat in the stands injured most weekends !!
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| Maybe the players, during their rehab, look down at their winning medals and think it was all worth it.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Maybe the players, during their rehab, look down at their winning medals and think it was all worth it.'"
For sure as I say injuries are to be expected as it's a contact sport but every clubs inabilitys to staff accordingly due to the cap is now hilighting the lack of depth in squads.
Im not a fan of some of the new trends of the third or fourth man in when the attacker is virtually tackled smashing into them happening too often and it's only real perpous is to cause harm which is unsporting imo the deliberate twisting and isolating joints again no reason to do it other than to cause injurie
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| Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "
Im not a fan of some of the new trends of the third or fourth man in when the attacker is virtually tackled smashing into them happening too often and it's only real perpous is to cause harm which is unsporting imo the deliberate twisting and isolating joints again no reason to do it other than to cause injurie'"
Completely agree. Ratchford was very upset in the Widnes game when he thought his leg and knee were being twisted in the tackle. Don't often see him riled like that.
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| Injuries seem to be increasing in both codes. I think this is partly to do with the changes to tackling techniques. Defence is much more aggressive than it was back in the day. I was coached to let my body fall with the player I tackled, now the idea is to send them back from where they started, and to slow down the attack by tackling the upper body initially, and then legs.
Doing away with the magic sponge hasn't helped. That used to cure two broken legs!
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