Unfortunately we also have one of the worse back lines....... Can't remember seeing such a poor centre and wing pairing, especially for a team that has grand final aspirations.

Patton is no good , id rather livett start

I wouldn't worry about us ( Wigan) too much, looks like you'll be facing our 5th and 6th choice wingers. Manfredi, Burgess and Tierney out injured, Escare still covering fullback for Tomkins. Your backline will have a field day against two teenagers in Marshall and Davies.

Hill and Currie being out is really hurting you because with them your pack can then paper over the cracks that your backs are responsible for.

I had a conversation with a Wire fan in pre season in a pub in Wigan after he overheard me in a conversation with friends slating Wires back line. I stated then I didn't see why they could have some people backing them as having the best 17 in superleague because the 1-7 is decidedly average. There's a lack of pace in the halves, no creativity in the centres and little threat on the wings.

I certainly don't say that from a point of view of trying to get a rise but because that was and is my genuine opinion. I can't get my head round why Smith hasn't rebuilt the backline because to me it was clearly needed.

You, us, anyone with eyes can see it. Everyone except those that matter.

It's classic Arsene Wenger syndrome

Here is my review of todays game. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -down.html Thanks for reading and do you think I'm right?

Here is my review of todays game. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -down.html Thanks for reading and do you think I'm right?

Quote Fatbelly="Fatbelly"Here is my review of todays game. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -down.html Thanks for reading and do you think I'm right?'" Really good read that. I really hope we can turn things around on Thursday but I fear the worst. It could be us, Saints and Leeds in the bottom 4 at this rate- who would have predicted that at the start of the season.

Quote Fatbelly="Fatbelly"Here is my review of todays game. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -down.html Thanks for reading and do you think I'm right?'" Really good read that. I really hope we can turn things around on Thursday but I fear the worst. It could be us, Saints and Leeds in the bottom 4 at this rate- who would have predicted that at the start of the season.

Quote Fatbelly="Fatbelly"Here is my review of todays game. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -down.html Thanks for reading and do you think I'm right?'" I think the problem you have in that article is that you show how easy it is for people to judge teams based on reputation alone. There are not any easy games in SL anymore. Salford were down key personnel and you got a couple of iffy calls for two tries. It shows that if a team doesn't turn up with the right attitude and enthusiasm, no matter who is on the team sheet, they're going to get beat more often than not. Not for me to judge who should be to blame on your end of things. The players? The coaches? Just an off day? Early days yet for all that, and I'm sure that Wire will not be groping around the basement come the end of the season.

Quote Fatbelly="Fatbelly"Here is my review of todays game. wirerantings.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -down.html Thanks for reading and do you think I'm right?'" I think the problem you have in that article is that you show how easy it is for people to judge teams based on reputation alone. There are not any easy games in SL anymore. Salford were down key personnel and you got a couple of iffy calls for two tries. It shows that if a team doesn't turn up with the right attitude and enthusiasm, no matter who is on the team sheet, they're going to get beat more often than not. Not for me to judge who should be to blame on your end of things. The players? The coaches? Just an off day? Early days yet for all that, and I'm sure that Wire will not be groping around the basement come the end of the season.

I thought we played better last week against Cas. We lacked enterprise today in the attack & didn't help ourselves with not respecting possession & the penalty count & once again allowed our opponents to make more ground with the ball.I thought the performance was very flat today & very one dimensional.

We struggled in this fixture last year & were lucky that Sandow got the drop goal.

Like it was for the last 3 months of last season and into this

Fair comments. I was not at the game yesterday but Wire did not exactly walk over Salford this time last year, did we? We also lost to a Castleord side that has been playing some of the best rugby in Superleague in patches last season and consistently this one. No doubt in my mind that Wire will improve, but maybe Salford have improved already this season.