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On the day of the 2012 Grand Final
wireflyer33 wrote:- i will get back to you tomorrow,will be to0 hung over tonight after wires win in the g/f- as for wire having to play above themselves to beat leeds all wire need to do is play them like we did at wembley anyway,got to go,i have a g/f to go too,have a nice day watching wire lift the g/f trophy:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45902.jpg |
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "If Wigan had swapped places with Hull kr and gone down, which players would you take from that 17 tonight. ....
I'd have gelling for evans and farrell for jack hughes. And nuisalla for any prop except hill.
But that's it.
Quite shocking really. ...'"
Bateman for any of them |
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| Quote: marshman777 "Not sure what we are going to get more from Cooper than we are from Sims. If Sims gets a slagging off on here then Cooper will only have a 2 week grace before he is fair game as there stats are very similar
Cooper - Hit Ups 283, Clean Breaks 1,Off Loads 14
Sims - Hit ups 381, Clean Breaks 1, Off Loads 64
After watching Cooper for all his games in the NRL and before they are very similar players either will break the line, but both will get you a quick play the ball.
Cooper doesn't off load but Sims will, Cooper goes in at first receiver and passes before the line, Sims doesn't.
They will both be great for us or next season in very different ways than Hill. Hill makes great yards, is a penalty machine (especially near our own sticks with holding down) but is really slow at the play he ball. Very Different styles and great a great mix.
Not looked at Crosby's stats as he hasn't signed but seems more of a Hill than a Sims
I am looking forward to seeing them all work together as they form a good mix.'"
Unfair about Hill being a penalty machine as most seem to be caused by the fatigue he gets due to his ridiculously high work rate and long minutes.
He will be more effective without such a weak bench.
Incidentally is anyone aware there is another full-time prop right now in the first team squad and that was definitely the most bizarre signing of many years. |
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Packs Win Games
Great Packs Make All Backs Look Class
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| Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "Would also say that successfully clubs have had world class centres in the teams. Lyon newlove connoly king etc I personally do jot believe that that's a coincidence and still stand by my statement that with evens n penny in the team we will win love all. Yes packs eine dominant is important however to win a game we have to score more than the other team.'" haven't your read my post?
We won at Hull FC with Evans and Penny in the team. It was in effect a cup final, and treated by both teams, the fans and Sky TV as one.
We won the LLS sheild.
You could however correct it and say we won't win love all 'AGAIN'. Then it's only your opinion so I cannot say otherwise. |
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You're a really good side, but missing Sandow, Gidley, Westwood, Currie, for key moments at the business end has cost you , Gidley hasn't looked the same player since getting smashed at Wembley. Sandown is a shadow of early season pre injury form, when they as a pair were the best in the League. You've lost the best 2nd rower in SL, as well as your talisman Benny. My good you've done brilliant to get so close . It's heartbreaking I know but don't talk yourselfs into believing your not good enough. You maybe need to buy some class at centre and I'd bin Sims, brings very little, and no grunt or line bend which he should be as a prop. Wire you are a bit of bad luck away from being a chmpuon side.
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| Quote: marshman777 "Not sure what we are going to get more from Cooper than we are from Sims. If Sims gets a slagging off on here then Cooper will only have a 2 week grace before he is fair game as there stats are very similar
Cooper - Hit Ups 283, Clean Breaks 1,Off Loads 14
Sims - Hit ups 381, Clean Breaks 1, Off Loads 64
After watching Cooper for all his games in the NRL and before they are very similar players either will break the line, but both will get you a quick play the ball.
Cooper doesn't off load but Sims will, Cooper goes in at first receiver and passes before the line, Sims doesn't.
They will both be great for us or next season in very different ways than Hill. Hill makes great yards, is a penalty machine (especially near our own sticks with holding down) but is really slow at the play he ball. Very Different styles and great a great mix.
Not looked at Crosby's stats as he hasn't signed but seems more of a Hill than a Sims
I am looking forward to seeing them all work together as they form a good mix.'"
Cooper also has an average gain of 9.2m over 283 carries. There are only 11 players in SL better than that (13 if you count those with less than 10 carries), and the only forward in that 11 is Clark. Hill's work rate beats Cooper, but I think they will be fighting next season for most metres made. For comparison, Hill's is 8.2m, Sims' is 6.7m and Crosby's is 7.7m. |
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| Quote: Jaywire "Cooper also has an average gain of 9.2m over 283 carries. There are only 11 players in SL better than that (13 if you count those with less than 10 carries), and the only forward in that 11 is Clark. Hill's work rate beats Cooper, but I think they will be fighting next season for most metres made. For comparison, Hill's is 8.2m, Sims' is 6.7m and Crosby's is 7.7m.'"
What a pack that would be, I really hope it happens. |
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